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Zod ripped that armor off of himself by flexing during the end of the movie.


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The world engine feat was not that impressive? Ok dude, the leviathan punch was not that impressive. If you wanna go down that road we can. How about Hulk not being that impressive in any movie he has been in



Quote someone saying that here.


What was impressive about it? I don't mind being corrected.


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What was impressive about it? I don't mind being corrected.
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Zod ripped that armor off of himself by flexing during the end of the movie.


That's a testament to the level of strength Zod gained, not the armor being weak.


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That's a testament to the level of strength Zod gained, not the armor being weak.


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Zod ripped that armor off of himself by flexing during the end of the movie.


Are you high?

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What was impressive about it? I don't mind being corrected.


1. Superman was weakened. Like Severely.

2. In the weakened state he had to not only tear apart the machine, but fight against the crushing force it created.

As far as the bodies not being crushed I'd call PIS simply because we see cars and buildings being crushed so it's logical to assume the bodies should have been as well. Most likely overlooked. Can you screen shot the bodies? Been a while ya know?


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1. Superman was weakened. Like Severely.

2. In the weakened state he had to not only tear apart the machine, but fight against the crushing force it created.

As far as the bodies not being crushed I'd call PIS simply because we see cars and buildings being crushed so it's logical to assume the bodies should have been as well. Most likely overlooked. Can you screen shot the bodies? Been a while ya know?


Severely?

How powerful was the crushing force?

Buildings were falling over after prolong hits with the machine but the ft isn't above something that Thor could do.

I will look for the scene.


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Bodies weren't turned to pudding because the film is PG-13.

Cars were insta-crushed.


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Severely?

How powerful was the crushing force?

Buildings were falling over after prolong hits with the machine but the ft isn't above something that Thor could do.

I will look for the scene.


Yeah severely. You remember the scene where he goes onto Zod's ship? He was KO'd within moments. He would have been having the same reaction once he was near the machine.

Powerful enough to crush cars and buildings. Plus remember he was weakened. The crushing force itself probably wasn't enough to cause him too much trouble if he were healthy.

Thor at 100%? No it isn't above Thor imo. But him weakened like Kal was? I doubt he could have done it.


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Yeah severely. You remember the scene where he goes onto Zod's ship? He was KO'd within moments. He would have been having the same reaction once he was near the machine.

Powerful enough to crush cars and buildings. Plus remember he was weakened. The crushing force itself probably wasn't enough to cause him too much trouble if he were healthy.

Thor at 100%? No it isn't above Thor imo. But him weakened like Kal was? I doubt he could have done it.


You remember when Kal woke up and his body was ok, he adapted to the environment and was able to functionally walk, punch a hole in the wall with a simple back hand, etc... before I keep going with this, can't remember but did his father change the air environment during the scene i am talking about? Let me see.

It was car crushing. Think the building gave in after repeated hits from the force of the World engine. Superman is well above that, even weakened.

Thor not at 100% still would've performed that ft imo. It's not like it was busting craters in the ground.


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Bodies weren't turned to pudding because the film is PG-13.

Cars were insta-crushed.
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You remember when Kal woke up and his body was ok, he adapted to the environment and was able to functionally walk, punch a hole in the wall with a simple back hand, etc... before I keep going with this, can't remember but did his father change the air environment during the scene i am talking about? Let me see.



Jor-El and Lois changed the ship's environment to that of Earth.


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Jor-El and Lois changed the ship's environment to that of Earth.


Thanks for the correction.

He wasn't weakened when he was on the ground though. Only when he was fighting it in the air in the mist it was creating.


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Thanks for the correction.

He wasn't weakened when he was on the ground though. Only when he was fighting it in the air in the mist it was creating.


The kpytonian environment was all around the Word Engine. We hear him coughing and when on the ground, he was clearly straining and trying to gather strength before he flies up and into the machine.


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The World Engine feat is definitely a great strength and durability feat, but I think we were originally trying to debate striking/hitting strength and feats... which I don't think the World engine feat is.


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You remember when Kal woke up and his body was ok, he adapted to the environment and was able to functionally walk, punch a hole in the wall with a simple back hand, etc... before I keep going with this, can't remember but did his father change the air environment during the scene i am talking about? Let me see.

It was car crushing. Think the building gave in after repeated hits from the force of the World engine. Superman is well above that, even weakened.

Thor not at 100% still would've performed that ft imo. It's not like it was busting craters in the ground.


He woke up with human stats. Remember when he was tied down and couldn't break free? Also the needle punctured his skin and they took blood. It wasn't until Jor changed the environment did Kal break free and whatnot.

It was car crushing(I'll take your word about the buildings for now until I rewatch) and given that Kal is depowered to the point of having human stats after exposure to the Kryptonain environment, he would have been crushed/killed had he stayed too long.

Thor relies on his hammer for flight. The hammer doesn't weaken and the way he flies(hammer out in front) I agree he could still fly thru it weakened, but only due to Mjolnir. He wouldn't even be able to stand on his own tho. At least that's my opinion


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I'm starting to think Carver did not watch the movie at all.


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I'm starting to think Carver did not watch the movie at all.


Yea carver, why are you debating based off a hazy memory of the movie? Do we all need to explain the movie in detail to you now when you could just watch it for yourself?

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It's weird how people try to debate the power of the World Engine when we see cars being flattened to pancakes and buildings destroyed when in the radius.


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