I found another, earlier issue where Darkseid owns Secret. Now, this is BEFORE he trained her in her powers well enough that she took YJ's combined attacks to no effect, but it's well AFTER she owned Despero's psionic/astral self (who was still well above J'onn in TP), first making him run in fear, and later banishing him to oblivion. Also, it's one of the few times she got angry and went all out. Pretty funny scene as well. Here it is:
Here's another few scans. These mostly deal with the nature of Darkseid's power and some specific battle arguments, rather than his actual power level.
For everyone who writes off Darkseid teleporting people away as a non-feat or due to his lack of ability to kill them (I've heard it before), it is DIRECTLY shown that people teleported by the OE are removed from reality and hurled through what's described both as "infinity" and "oblivion." The point is that Omega Effect teleportation involves erasing people from existence. The only difference between teleports and wipeouts is that he hurtles people briefly through oblivion for teleports, whereas for wipeouts he leaves them there.
Evidence:
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Many people seem to think Darkseid is limited to using eyebeams or something and mention that as a weakness. In truth, he is perfectly capable of using wide beams or even omni-directional blasts:
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And finally, here's another one that shows Darkseid's power over his minions. For the life of me, I still don't see how some people argue that he uses his armies because he can't win a fight personally, or that having trouble with a group of random troopers is consistent with being on par with DS himself.
He launches The Omega Effect into the atmosphere and reigns down random death and destruction (including destruction of souls, apparently) as a mere warning, in a reminder that he leads Apokolips because of the extreme fear that he command:
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Last edited by Jimmy-Chan on Sep 26th, 2006 at 01:34 AM
Eh, I've pretty much posted every Darkseid showing that exists and is still relevent (part of his continuity and not retconned) If I post any more, it'll have to be from future issues or scenes where Darkseid just "looks" powerful or badass, but doesn't do anything concrete.
Brainiac confirms the number of Daxams under Darkseid's control, and also confirms that each Daxamite possesses power equal to PC Superboy's: (please log in to view the image)
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Awesome Respect thread
Darkseid should not be questioned,when involved in a versus fight,This thread is very informative and leaves me with more respect for Darkseid,job well done to all
Ive said this too much on these boards, Barring a canon retcon,Characters are used by many writers and for many comics,they have to be grounded in the many characters that exsist in DC,of course we have low showings,every character has them,i dont know why more people cant see it for them selves,thats why the rules say at "Optimum Levels" and have other rules which even disregaurd a whole writers run on a comic
Nice counter arguments also
Darkseid has my respect
Darkseid is a badass, but it hurts his rep when his most recent showings haven't been that great. Hopefully when Starlin does his New Gods series DS will return to his original badass showings.
Darkseid with a tiny fraction of the Anti-Life Entities power combined with his own, was able to seal the creature in it's own realm in order to prevent it from entering any other realm(s):
Reaching into the Firestorm Matrix from the outside, and seperating the entities, is very impressive by itself, let alone downing the trio of badasses with one casual wave of a hand.
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