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jinzin
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well if mrs marvel couldn't break his bones what chance does dd have? confused


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This boils down to DD's superior skill in fighting vs. Sabertooth's mutant advantages.

I don't think the not-so-massive advantage DD has in fighting is enough to compensate for claws, strength, healing factor and the will to continue fighting and taking damage with no concern but to rip your opponents neck out. DD doesn't have the firepower to hurt Sabertooth hard enough and fast enough to matter.

Sabertooth takes this very soon after his first handful of claws upside DD's neck.


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This boils down to DD's superior skill in fighting vs. Sabertooth's mutant advantages.

I don't think the not-so-massive advantage DD has in fighting is enough to compensate for claws, strength, healing factor and the will to continue fighting and taking damage with no concern but to rip your opponents neck out. DD doesn't have the firepower to hurt Sabertooth hard enough and fast enough to matter.

Sabertooth takes this very soon after his first handful of claws upside DD's neck.


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there was only one instance when an innocent was in danger and only one time when he turned his back to creed.. confused

a favor to which creed returned when he turned his back on daredevil in an attempt to kill the girl... thus evening the score...



well I could see how you might think that right off the bat.. the only thing I think makes this reasoning incorrect is the conclussion.. it doesn't matter if daredevil got more hits in.. by the end of the battle he was too injured to go on a chase, sabretooth wasn't. Had sabretooth not chosen to leave and continued attacking dd I don't think matt could have effectively defended himself for very long against sabretooth, and this was vs. a much more human version of sabretooth.


* when DD turned his back: Creed rushed to attack DD...
* when Creed turned his back: DD rushed to save the girl...

* NOT EVEN in my opinion... wink

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Honestly, I feel like a lot of you do not read the comics or know about these characters but rather are going on a personal opinion about the character because if you guys would have read Dare Devil Vs Sabretooth YEARS ago. You would know that Dare Devil whupped Sabretooth and YES Sabretooth did have his healing factor and Adamantium claws. Dare Devil even beat black suit Spider Man back in the days when his billy club hit Spider Man in back of the head while he was facing Dare Devil because Dare Devil threw it and tricked Spidey. Dare Devil left Spider Man laid out in a tree. How can you guys say Dare Devil doesn't stand a chance against Sabretooth but he has already beat him in the comic book? Look this up or go buy the comic if you can find it.

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Originally posted by LetsbeREAL
Honestly, I feel like a lot of you do not read the comics or know about these characters but rather are going on a personal opinion about the character because if you guys would have read Dare Devil Vs Sabretooth YEARS ago. You would know that Dare Devil whupped Sabretooth and YES Sabretooth did have his healing factor and Adamantium claws. Dare Devil even beat black suit Spider Man back in the days when his billy club hit Spider Man in back of the head while he was facing Dare Devil because Dare Devil threw it and tricked Spidey. Dare Devil left Spider Man laid out in a tree. How can you guys say Dare Devil doesn't stand a chance against Sabretooth but he has already beat him in the comic book? Look this up or go buy the comic if you can find it.


You mean story that directly uses a cat playing with a mouse ON PANEL as metaphor for the exchange between Sabretooth and Daredevil?

Figure it out, bro. cool


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^ Arguable.

But for various reasons, I think it's more than arguable that the house cat playing with the mouse was a metaphor for the inherent contradictory natures clashing within Sabretooth, regardless of victim. He hungers for the kill but he does not need to feed.

One of those reasons is that DD's battle with Sabretooth did not closely parallel the mouse's battle with the cat. Other than the initial tackle, the mouse was quickly and utterly incapacitated and helpless very early on, whereas at that point, DD was still giving Sabretooth plenty to handle. Frankly, DD got some of his best licks in well after the mouse's plight was settled as utterly hopeless. And the cat's deathblow on the mouse actually paralleled Sabretooth's seeming deathblow on the innocent girl, not on DD.


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Daredevil wins.

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Reading some of the comments in this thread, you'd think Sabes was taking on a normal street leveler, instead of a guy who toys with bullets and learned crazy mystical martial arts from Stick...

This should be a good fight, either way.

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You mean story that directly uses a cat playing with a mouse ON PANEL as metaphor for the exchange between Sabretooth and Daredevil?

Figure it out, bro. cool


So are you telling me that Dare Devil never held his own and beat Sabretooth when they fought?

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The thing with Sabretooth is that he is raw aggression and the majority of hero's who kicked his butt was skilled fighters. Dare Devil by no means is a push over. Dare Devil has beat Wolverine before as well.

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i find it funny that people seem to be backing dd more against sabes than they backed spidey against sabes....

dd would definitely make sabes work for this, but sabes simply has too many physical advantages for dd.


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Daredevil wins.


Are you serious...

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So are you telling me that Dare Devil never held his own and beat Sabretooth when they fought?


Creed's been upgraded a few times since then. And I wouldn't call it a win anyway. Big lulz at you saying he had adamantium claws.


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Creed ftw!

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Originally posted by LetsbeREAL
The thing with Sabretooth is that he is raw aggression and the majority of hero's who kicked his butt was skilled fighters. Dare Devil by no means is a push over. Dare Devil has beat Wolverine before as well.


Exactly. He's beaten Wolverine, who's about in Creeds ballpark, give or take...

Basically, what it comes down to for me is Matt has the speed, and has the skills. Sabes has the healing factor and raw strength...

Even with his healing factor, you can't tell me pressure point attacks coming from someone with Matts greater than street level strength won't have an effect, let alone an extended assault from him on, say, the back of Sabretooth's neck.

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Daredevil wins.



LOL

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LOL


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Are you serious...



Creed's been upgraded a few times since then. And I wouldn't call it a win anyway. Big lulz at you saying he had adamantium claws.


So Sabretooth didn't have Adamantium claws when he fought Dare Devil? Can you prove this? And on top of that. Even before and after his bones were laced with Adamantium, Sabretooth was able to rip through steel. Why try to down play the early Sabretooth just because he got beat by Dare Devil?

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So Sabretooth didn't have Adamantium claws when he fought Dare Devil? Can you prove this? And on top of that. Even before and after his bones were laced with Adamantium, Sabretooth was able to rip through steel. Why try to down play the early Sabretooth just because he got beat by Dare Devil?


That issue was released in 1987. Creed got his first adamantium package (skeleton + claws) eleven years later in Wolverine v2.

If anyone was beat it was Matt who couldn't even chase Creed because of his injuries. That showing doesn't really matter in a forum fight because Sabretooth got upgraded by his son and later by Weapon X. And he kept mutating between those boosts.


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