This is spite in favor of Superman.
As neither can deal with an instant blitz from Superman.
Superman blitzes Firelord in a nanosecond and then in the next nanosecond he easily beats Terrax.
It is impossible for these two together to win against Superman even once.
That is bad logic.
Both Surfer and Thor have terrible battle and reaction speeds. So comparing a fight with them with a fight with Superman is folly.
Firelord won't get a chance to blink when the fight starts. He will be koed or kill in nanoseconds.
Show me scans of Superman blitzing a herald-level foe in a nanosecond and defeating him, and then show me a scan where he repeats it to a second herald-level foe. Then some of the posters on this thread might actually take you seriously.
Uhh. What? Surfer and Thor have shown been shown to have great battle and reaction speeds. And I will even grant you that they do have some glaring instances of low-end speed feats, but you act as if Superman doesn't have disgustingly low-end feats as well. Trust me, they are there. You're assessing a double-standard.
That's like asking me to show you where Superman has lifted a bulldozer. But by the fact that he lifted heaver or equal weighed objects proves that he can lift the bulldozer (even though I think he never did lift one).
Superman has instantly blitzed plently of beings that has awesome reflexes a countless number of times. In "nanoseconds" is just a good guess but it doesn't matter exactly since it will be (the blitz) seemingly instant to the herald. So the burden of proof is for you to actually show that a herald can not be blitzed by Superman's speed (due to their reactions and instant speed).
Yes greater than a human's of course. But greater than Superman (by their high end feats)? Not!
There is no double standard. Because of forum rules, I used high end feats for everyone, as long as it isn't PIS. So both Surfer's and Thor's high end feats shows that they have terrible battle speed and reflexes when compared to Superman's high end feats.
This is ridiculous I have seen Superman fight countless times and he isnt speedblitzing everyone. Its silly to think he beats everyone in this manner. To think Firelord loses to speed is hilarious to me. These guys are heralds to Galactus and you seem to think they cant react to Kal'el's speed.
That doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to speed blitz. You can't deny this power of his. Silly? Hilarious? And what on God's green Earth makes you think that heralds automatically have the reflexes to dodge Superman's top speed blitz? Give me one good reason.
Heralds are garbage. They're nothing to me if I had Superman's powers. I could kill any herald easily. And that's a fact Jack.
Answer this Quanchi:
What is the maximum amount of punches that Superman needs to ko Firelord? Be honest!
Terrax hasn't even proven to have the reflexes and battle speed greater than Captain America's. Superman would take that axe and make him a Terrax two piece.
Yes, Galactus does makes P's for heralds if they are not as battle fast as Superman. Speed is the king of all things that can be destroyed by it.
This thread is spite in favor of Superman and you know it. There is no way Firelord will not be koed by a speedy combination (1 punch is all it takes though) before Terrax can react. Terrax then gets his before he can run away.
Answer this:
If Firelord and Terrax had the highest battle speed and reflexes that ever was shown for them in comics and if you had Superman's powers with the highest speed shown for you as well and you fought Firelord and Terrax at the same time, what would you do when the battle started? Do you think you would win?
Because most comic fans use a certain type of faulty reasoning.
This faulty is based on bias and faulty abc logic.
I typically don't (maybe sometimes) have these problems because I am a logician and mathematician first and comic fan second.
Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that both Firelord and Terrax have more than the power to kill Superman (overkill actually). It's just that I don't think they would get the chance because of both Superman's speed and they're lack of showing enough battle speed in their history to combat Superman's speed.
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Speed Only wins if the person doesn't have the senses and reflexes to deal with it. Superman is fast, but he isn't flash fast. He can't pwn two Heralds at the same time. Not when one is very close to him in power, and the other is close to that. I could see if it was someone like thor, who on panel had his arm broken by a suprise attack.
True that! But no Herald has the reflexes to deal with Superman's speed. Now saying they do just because they are a "Herald" is just like saying that Superman wins because he has an "S" on his chest and his name is "Superman". Being a Herald doesn't necessarily define one to have the reflexes to deal with Superman's speed. Otherwise, it would be at least one feat showing that this is the case.
Since there aren't many (none in fact) then we can say that no Herald possesses this type of power. Thus Supes wins easily.
Now don't get me wrong. All Heralds have superhuman speed and reflexes (better than a human's) but not to the level where they can respond to Superman's best, even when they are at their best as well.
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