Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, that is dormammu in a different story. What the hell.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That has NOTHING to do with Thanos and what was said on panel about the IG.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ONly retards would fall for such a rediculous ploy.
Sweet logic.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IF there were evidence to contradict what I said from the IG arcs,
you would have posted it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Anyways,
according to Marvel comics,
616 Eternity contains the power of the Infinite Multiverse:
.............................................................................................Dormammu gets ready to usurp the power of Eternity:
"All of Eternity's power will be mine ...
I go now into the mystery of Eternity ...
the power of Creation itself".............................................................................................
He transcends from the Dimension of Manifestations, into the 616 Reality.
What is the power of 616 Eternity?
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS".............................................................................................
No unsupported ignorance here dogs, just on panel Marvel FACTS!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But alas, some sad uniformed posters will think you actually did something.
I'm not the one.
You didn't do shit but prove oyu know how to throw smoke and mirrors very well.
Seriously, you should not debate while getting high. 🙂
This is funny people think Thanos has a chance, so I'd like to see him go up face a depowered Death and still win, when he can do that he might have a chance if he can't he don't have a snowballs chance in hell end of story thanosfans!! Lucifer blinks and Thanos dies and the IG floats in space and Lucifer laughs. This fanboyism of Thanos has ended.. 😂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, that's Dormammu usurping 616 Eternity's power.Only that Thanos defeated the power of the Infintie Multiverse,
and now that you see the evidence, you come back with off-topic gibberish.So you're continuos fallacious drivel is of consequence,
but my presentation of 616 Eternity's power On Panel is a "ploy?"Sweet logic.
Here it is again, in case you missed it the first time around:
If you dislike the FACT, that 616 Eternity contains the power of the Infinite Prime Multiverse,
write Marvel a letter and complain.durznuts
Seriously, you should not debate while getting high. 🙂
Sorry bud, There is no evidence from the IG arcs supporting your theory that THanos was taking all of that power for himself. It simply stated thanos would replace that universe as eternity. How in the hell does one become more powerful than something you are replacing? He was replacing an aspect of Eternity. If he was being more powerful, he wouldn't need to replace shit. As a matter of fact, Only the aspect of eternity was having a problem with it. I seem to remember another time when the totality of Eternity and infinity didn't give a shit about the IG. SO you can feel good in knowing you have some simpletons who may see your scans of dormammu and think you did something. I know better. That is Dormammu. It has nothing to do with Eternity in the IG arc. We know there are different aspects. And even then, IT says that It is only a small fraction of the totallity of Eternity. You can continue if oyu like, you are the one who has something at stake. A " hierarchy" to protect and all.
It's funny how people think Lucifer has a chance. They provide no
evidence whatsoever and make mindless assumptions such as "Lucifer
gestures teh IG out of existence" or "Lucy blinks and Thanos dies"
when Lucifer has been mindraped by a wolf and has been sent to
hell. 😂
In fact they forget that Lucifer doesn't even have powers in some of the
realms. Wait they can't forget since they didn't even know that in the
first place. 😆
Lucifer's greatest feat can easily be performed by Mad Jim Jaspers or
HOM Wanda or even a cosmic cube, but still Lucifer is oh so powerful. I
mean he is Lucifer after all "God's will made in flesh" a senseless
assumption that was never supported.
So yeah I guess Lucifer wins because he isn't a Marvel
character. 🙄
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sorry bud,
There is no evidence from the IG arcs supporting your theory
that THanos was taking all of that power for himself.
It simply stated thanos would replace that universe as eternity.
How in the hell does one become more powerful than something you are replacing?
He was replacing an aspect of Eternity.
If he was being more powerful, he wouldn't need to replace shit.
As a matter of fact, Only the aspect of eternity was having a problem with it.
I seem to remember another time when the totality of Eternity and infinity didn't give a shit about the IG.
SO you can feel good in knowing you have some simpletons who may see your scans of dormammu and think you did something.
I know better. That is Dormammu.
It has nothing to do with Eternity in the IG arc.
We know there are different aspects.
And even then, IT says that It is only a small fraction of the totallity of Eternity. You can continue if oyu like, you are the one who has something at stake.
A " hierarchy" to protect and all.
On the reals, and I mean this with sincerity, you're a joke.
....................................................................................
AGAIN!!!!
....................................................................................
Thanos defeats 616 Eternity is one move:
Thanos even replaces the core of the Multiverse with himself in an instant.
....................................................................................
Big deal, and who the heck is 616 Eternity?
....................................................................................
"All of Eternity's power will be mine ...
I go now into the mystery of Eternity ...
the power of Creation itself"
.............................................................................................
He transcends from the Dimension of Manifestations, into the 616 Reality.
What is the power of 616 Eternity?
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS"
.............................................................................................
Holy! ... Now I see who 616 Eternity is.
.............................................................................................
Is this a surprise?
not at all, in another arc, it was brought to light,
that the Omniverse is sustained by the 616 Reality/Universe:
"After my last report however, we were forced to reinspect our fundamental principles.
We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately following the initial
nanoseconds of This Universe.
And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "
..................................................................................
Dr Stange is confused with the Uatu's explanation,
so Uatu tells him in plain engilsh the fact concerning the significance
of the 616 Reality:
Dr Strange says,
"I do not understand ... please explain more simply"
Uatu explains more simply,
"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.
Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.
Everything there is, will End.
Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been"
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wow, so even afetr all the evidence you're still dancing in circles.On the reals, and I mean this with sincerity, you're a joke.
....................................................................................
AGAIN!!!!
....................................................................................
Thanos defeats 616 Eternity is one move:
Thanos even replaces the core of the Multiverse with himself in an instant.
....................................................................................Big deal, and who the heck is 616 Eternity?
....................................................................................
"All of [B]Eternity's power
will be mine ...
I go now into the mystery of Eternity ...
the power of Creation itself".............................................................................................
He transcends from the Dimension of Manifestations, into the 616 Reality.
What is the power of 616 Eternity?
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL This -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the UniverseS".............................................................................................
Holy! ... Now I see who 616 Eternity is.
.............................................................................................
Is this a surprise?
not at all, in another arc, it was brought to light,
that the Omniverse is sustained by the 616 Reality/Universe:"After my last report however, we were forced to reinspect our fundamental principles.
We concluded that the destruction of This Universe,
while still bounded by the speed of light,
would occur within an expanding simultaneity, which would,
paratemporally, have begun immediately following the initial
nanoseconds of This Universe.And then it would Expand outward from This Universe ...
we call it 616 ... to engulf All Others ... "..................................................................................
Dr Stange is confused with the Uatu's explanation,
so Uatu tells him in plain engilsh the fact concerning the significance
of the 616 Reality:Dr Strange says,
"I do not understand ... please explain more simply"
Uatu explains more simply,
"If your World Dies now, Stephen, it will take Everything with it.
Not only This Universe (616) but All the Other UniverseS as well.
Everything there is, will End.
Or rather put it even more simply, Everything will never have been" [/B]
That is all fine and dandy, we know that the 616 is the spine of marvel only becuz THe LT has it as such. Doesn't mean that one has omniversal destroying power becuz one can destroy the 616. One just collapses reality. Now one who can destroy everyuniverse at the same time is truly omniversal. I don't fall for such rediculous stretching. Only a noob would fall for those scans OUT of context. ANd the 616 is only special becuz the LT deams it so. IT would seem that the Ultimate verse can just as easily replace the core of Eternity.
U know what, its like peopel are hyping Thanos with the IG to something that he isnt. Here is the simple logic guys, Thanos with the IG was all powerful but not a god...if anything it took the power of a agent of God to defeat him. Lucifer is the will of the God made into flesh...he CAN dimiss the IG and its wielder with a simple gesture. I dont know what else there is to say.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is all fine and dandy,
we know that the 616 is the spine of marvel only becuz THe LT has it as such. Doesn't mean that one has omniversal destroying power becuz one can destroy the 616.
Thanos evidently had it with the IG.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One just collapses reality.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now one who can destroy everyuniverse at the same time is truly omniversal.
Thanos only wanted ONE Reality
Warlock didn't want any Reality
and Nebula was too mentally unstable to properly harness the IG fully.
Cool.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't fall for such rediculous stretching.
Only a noob would fall for those scans OUT of context.
my On Panel evidence,
my official bios
my official Marvel site,
my official interview with Jim Stalin On Panel in "Marvel Age"
vs your,
your ...
what is your proof? 🙄
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IT would seem that the Ultimate verse can just as easily replace the core of Eternity.
Originally posted by Mr Master
But one has to have atleast above Multiversal power to destroy/warp/re-create 616.Thanos evidently had it with the IG.
it's so easy to collapse 616 that only 4 beings have been able to accomplish that,
and one of them was THOTI.So again you ignore the FACT that,
Thanos only wanted ONE Reality
Warlock didn't want any Reality
and Nebula was too mentally unstable to properly harness the IG fully.Cool.
Let's hope the noobs fall for,
my On Panel evidence,
my official bios
my official Marvel site,
my official interview with Jim Stalin On Panel in "Marvel Age"vs your,
your ...
what is your proof? 🙄
The LT manipulates the Omniverse in one hand,
I'm sure he can do whatever he wants.
More of your stretching. Saying things like evidently when there is no evidence to support your evidently. Now you tell us that Thanos didn't want everything, And you tell us what Nebula wasn't able to do. There are beings like Reed richards who have been deemed unstable to use the IG. Please don't try and say Nebula was too blah blah. It didn't say that on panel. I love how you post panels that suit your needs, and just paraphrase and give evidently's and your own summations on panels that do not. I will never fall for it. YOur argument isn't convincing in the slightest. Not to me. Thanos with the IG wasn't multiversal, He wasn't God, and that is just that. He was less than the LT and the LT isn't even ALL powerful.
Yo.
Originally posted by Mr Master
In that case all things are temporary until they change.
some things *dont* change, however the power he sought he could never BECOME.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Regardless, you said Thanos became the master of 616,
when in fact, his power stretched FAR beyond the 616 Reality.
was I arguing against, or otherwise try to disprove the multiversal properties the I-Gems may've had??
the answer would be NO. so wat does *any* of that have to do with wat Im talking about??
wat, did the fact that I didnt mention "teh aWsom3ness" that is the IG push yur nose outta shape or something??
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nebula was/is no Thanos or Warlock my friend.
fine comrade, but neither was the Magus however even *he* had to fight for possession of the IG once AW got his hands on it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, my list of feats only proves that the IG is far more than a universal power.It also proves you Wrong, about claiming that the IG is a 616 ultimate power,
the IG's influence is Multiversal and possibly beyond.
but as that was never questiond, all it REALLY proves is that U have thin skin and argue things not being questioned.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos was never defeated, if you prove he was, I encourage you to do so.If you believe Thanos willingly giving up the IG counts as a defeat. 😆
defeated by his enemies, or by his own subconscious is immaterial: the point is he WAS.
and if we take into account wat happens when another person gets their hands on it, it looks like his "all-powerful" -status can be challenged.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Your exaggeration? Oh, I get it.
no, an exaggeration would be that he FLOGGED HIMSELF into losing the IG.
so I guess U *dont* get it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
He clearly doesn't have the IG in either hand in the second scan.
thats not true, since theres shots of Thanos in the IG-story itself where it looks like he doesnt have it; wat yur looking at is a failure of the *art* to display it.
for that matter Mael doesnt look like he has the QBs either, but I dont think any1 doubt that he's *supposed* to be wearing them.
Originally posted by Mr Master
But again,now you're looking into "What ifs" that NEVER took place on panel as evidence.
nice.
but since they apparently DID happen, since we're see it right there.
and its still the MU right??
Originally posted by Mr Master
We simply don't know what source of power Thanos had in that imaginary "What if" scenario.
That's Your likely interpretation of the events,
but you have no proof of any kind to support it.
how is that "imaginary", and U have about as much proof that Im wrong here, as U have that AW *couldnt* challenge Thanos for possession of the IG if he were to get his hands upon it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I, on the other hand CAN Prove,
that was an imaginary "What if" world that NEVER took place in any other comic book.
but since its actually depicted, its not "imaginary".
Originally posted by Mr Master
No he didn't, he made a single move with the IG alone,
and the power of the Multiverse was buried in stasis,
Thanos had become the core of the Multiverse, the foundation of the Omniverse.
*ahem*
when Thanos got the IG, he became all-powerful right??
but since the power remained w/in the Gems, they in-fact were still an EXTERNAL POWER SOURCE, as well as......an EXTERNAL PLOT DEVICE......cuz thats all the IGs really are.
simply truth.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Maelstrom under his own power/plus that which he had usirped,
was Not enough for him to be able to collapse a single Reality.
thats not true actually; the galaxy-sized b.h. he made was doing a pretty decent job of swallowing the universe, and it didnt look like either the Watchers nor the Celestials could stop it.
the only diff between Mael & Thanos, aside from their respective lvls of power, were the methods in which they went about their tasks; Maels act as basically causing a domino-effect, which then got accelerated by Quasar in order to eliminate him hoping *that* would end it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Comparing Thanos/IG and amped/Maelstrom is laughable.
I said they were struggling w/them; it aint like I said mael would BEAT Thanos.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You claimed the Ig made Thanos the master of the 616 Reality,
alluding to the idea that the IG limits the wielder to the 616 Universe.I simply disproved that claim.
If you didn't mean that, then my bad, and you obviously agree with me, which is cool.
fine, however I do wish U'd take the time to actually reply to wats *said*, rather than wat u think is between the lines next time; nobody like having words put in their mouths.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll always be hear to clean up any bull shit I come across concerning Marvel.
then I suppose U have quite a bit of yur own to do right??
😆
Tazer
Originally posted by Air LegendBiblical vs fiction...
Fenrir, Fenris same thing.Well mindraping him for one and killing the second most powerful being in DC, ya know--- Lucy's brother.
Funny how you call him immortal. *snickers*
Oh and Fenrir killed Michael. 😉I don't recall Kev saying anything of the sort. I do recall him saying "Luci and Mike was going against what there Father wanted" but I believe the mindrape was possible because of the realm they were in. 🙂
Regardless, do you know how... um, retarded, saying God was off his throne sounds?
Again... why is getting mindraped against Fenris a bad thing? What feats does Fenris have that would make that a bad feat for Lucifer (ignoring context)?
Apparently he was... but Lucifer is above Death. 🙂
Fenris controlling Lucifer killed Micheal.
You missed the point.
And apparently, you missed the context of the comic that I showed... since you didn't acknowledge them... intriguing.
That's what they said in the comic. 🙂 However, that little piece of fact is irrelevant, as they were weaker, whether it sounds retarded to you or not.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
In spite of the fact that Lucifer is considered the second most powerful being next to TP, people still debate that Thanos some universal srtifact can win...wat a joke.
For the recored. I never stated who wins. I like Lucifer as well.
Just that bitter fanboys try to make it seem that the IG is fairly weak.
Funny when they compare the IG to, parallax, mxy, antimonitor, anti life entity, ect.
An incomplete IG was multiversal.
Originally posted by Inhuman
For the recored. I never stated who wins. I like Lucifer as well.
Just that bitter fanboys try to make it seem that the IG is fairly weak.
Funny when they compare the IG to, parallax, mxy, antimonitor, anti life entity, ect.
An incomplete IG was multiversal.
For the record, I do not compare the IG to mxy, antimonitor, or parallax. It isn't in the same league. IT would be in league with the Godwave that ares had. THe worlogog, The Genesis box, or the Cosmic Extant would be good comparisons of the IG to DC characters or power items.
wow, a good amount of rubbish on both sides.
3 biggest problems.
1. it's obvious that Thanos' power was limited with IG, he says it himself when he claims THOTU.
2. getting mind-raped by the end of the universe incarnate (Fenris) is not a good arguement for depowering Lucifer. Fenris could have probably walked threw Thanos with the IG.
3. Lucifer did not create a universe or multiverse. He killed Michael and shaped a universe from the Genisis Michael's death created.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Tazer
some things *dont* change,
however the power he sought he could never BECOME.
Originally posted by Tazer
was I arguing against, or otherwise try to disprove the multiversal properties the I-Gems may've had??the answer would be NO.
so wat does *any* of that have to do with wat Im talking about??
Originally posted by Tazer
Thanos w/IG became Temporary Ultimate Master of the 616 Reality
Again,
if you didn't mean the IG limits the wielder to the 616 Reality, then my bad,
although I can't read it any other way, but if you didn't mean to state that,
let's move forward.
Originally posted by Tazer
wat, did the fact that I didnt mention "teh aWsom3ness"
that is the IG push yur nose outta shape or something??
Originally posted by Tazer
fine comrade,
but neither was the Magus however
even *he* had to fight for possession of the IG once AW got his hands on it.
Originally posted by Tazer
but as that was never questiond,
all it REALLY proves is that U have thin skin and argue things not being questioned.
Originally posted by Tazer
Thanos w/IG became Temporary Ultimate Master of the 616 Reality
Saying that I have "thin skin" blah, blah ... is gibberish to me.
Stay on-topic or you'l simply be ignored.
Originally posted by Tazer
defeated by his enemies,
or by his own subconscious is immaterial: the point is he WAS.
Hopefully ... you're joking.
Originally posted by Tazer
and if we take into account wat happens when another person gets their hands on it, it looks like his "all-powerful" -status can be challenged.
Originally posted by Tazer
no, an exaggeration would be that he FLOGGED HIMSELF into losing the IG.so I guess U *dont* get it.
Thanos willingly gave up the IG, so he was defeated. dontgetit
Originally posted by Tazer
thats not true,
since theres shots of Thanos in the IG-story itself where it looks like he doesnt
have it; wat yur looking at is a failure of the *art* to display it.for that matter Mael doesnt look like he has the QBs either,
but I dont think any1 doubt that he's *supposed* to be wearing them.
I can prove it was an imaginary "What if" reality,
and you can't dispute that, so ...
Originally posted by Tazer
but since they apparently DID happen, since we're see it right there.and its still the MU right??
"What ifs" are considered a joke by serious debaters.
This is why "What ifs" are never referenced in any bios,
or on panel in other titles.
Again, it's a "what if" scenerio ... as in "what if I could fly" (I'd probably go to Spain)
Originally posted by Tazer
That's Your likely interpretation of the events,
but you have no proof of any kind to support it.how is that "imaginary"
Even if Thanos had had the IG,
it would've been an alternate Thanos from an off-panel "What if" issue.
Quasar himself passed by a Reality in that trip through dimensions,
where he was depicted in a story that never took place on panel:
......................................................................................................
Meh, in fact, the story was titled,
"Wandering the Worlds of What if"
......................................................................................................
Now let's see yours.
Originally posted by Tazer
and U have about as much proof that Im wrong here
It was a "What if" scenario .... if you can't accept that, that's your problem,
take it up with Marvel.
Originally posted by Tazer
as U have that AW *couldnt* challenge Thanos for possession of the IG
if he were to get his hands upon it.
Originally posted by Tazer
but since its actually depicted, its not "imaginary".
Originally posted by Tazer
*ahem*
when Thanos got the IG, he became all-powerful right??
but since the power remained w/in the Gems,
they in-fact were still an EXTERNAL POWER SOURCE,
as well as......an EXTERNAL PLOT DEVICE......cuz thats all the IGs really are.simply truth.
The IG is an artifact that gives one the power to do anything,
Aside from the IG, one needs nothing else to accomplish a feat.
Maelstrom had usurped power (Anomaly's-Eon's awareness-Q's bands)
Maelstrom merged that with his own power.
Yet Maelstrom still needed a Black Hole to try and destroy a universe,
(see, THAT'S a Plot Device)
cause he couldn't use the power he had to accomplish a feat.
Originally posted by Tazer
thats not true actually;
the galaxy-sized b.h. he made was doing a pretty decent job of swallowing the universe
Originally posted by Tazer
and it didnt look like either the Watchers nor the Celestials could stop it.
Originally posted by Tazer
the only diff between Mael & Thanos,
aside from their respective lvls of power,
were the methods in which they went about their tasks;
Maels act as basically causing a domino-effect,
which then got accelerated by Quasar in order to eliminate him hoping *that* would end it.
Originally posted by Tazer
I said they were struggling w/them; it aint like I said mael would BEAT Thanos.
Like the Punisher killing the Marvel Universe. 😆
Originally posted by Tazer
fine, however I do wish U'd take the time to actually reply to wats *said*,
rather than wat u think is between the lines next time;
nobody like having words put in their mouths.
I already proved this several times just with you.
I was never misunderstanding anything,
I was responding to your misleading post concerning the IG and its 616 restriction.
You said you didn't mean that,
moving forward now.
Originally posted by Tazer
then I suppose U have quite a bit of yur own to do right??
Originally posted by Tazer
Tazer
Yo.
rather than dice up MMs reply Im just gonna say these few things and call it a day, cuz it seems as tho he cant seem to grasp stuff thats said in plain english (and that last post was pedantic AND boring):
1) having the IG made Thanos all-powerful w/in the 616; if it affectd other realities or not, either way its immaterial since we're only talking about actions taking place w/in the 616
2) my not mentioning something isnt a lack of support or endorsement, I simply havent mentioned it; assuming Im trying to say something by NOT saying something is a fools game. but U can play that as or if U will....
3) Thanos apparently WAS unstable, since according to AW he found *yet another way* to lose his grasp of "ultimate power"; its 1 thing to have it and have it taken from ya, it a whole other thing to discard it due to yur own *neurosis/psychosis/water*
4) normally Ud be correct about What Ifs not having a place in a comic debate since they dont deal directly, or have anything at all to do with, the 616......but thats not the case here since Elvis actually travelled TO these other places, and as such they count. to ignore them due to being alternates and/or not having been seen b4 is simply ridiculous.
5) if U want others to stay on topic and forego the sarcasm, or else theyll get ignored, then perhaps U should follow that advise TOO.
6) if somebody has explaind their position about a particular subject to U, that U've obviously been mistaken, then perhaps U should DROP THE POINT. theres nothing further to be gained by trying to re-correct them when *YOU* were the 1 who was wrong.
well, Im done. oh, and have a Merry Xmas.
/bows
Tazer
