Because scout troopers are stormtroopers and speeder bikes are their weapons.
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They also carry at least a pistol, if not a rifle and pistol. So their guns are their weapons and the speeder is their vehicle, though that's armed too.
Even allowing a few speeder bike squads, the SST is still kicking ass here. FFS, one of the scouts fell for the 'tap on the opposite shoulder' trick, stands to reason the Empire delegates the below average troops to that core.
I looked at a map of the SW universe today. You gotta consider that there are hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers on Coruscant, if not millions, then you have the Death star and star destroyers chocked full of them. Not to mention the ones stationed at the outlying planets. I think its safe to say that the ST's outnumber the SST's at least 10 to 1. Thats a generous guesstimate IMO.
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99.999% of those planets on that map don't exist canonically. and you're lucky Scout troopers are being used at all because they're not even infantry, theyre armor. they shouldnt even be allowed in this thread but no ones complaining so there's your handout.
as for the numbers so what if they outnumber them 10-1? one SST can kill a hundred with one shot of a nuclear grenade, so there numbers dont really mean anything. besides the SST are trained to fight against overwhelming numbers.
it doesnt matter anyway; theres no proof that the imperials outnumber them on the ground. just like the emprie the federation has planets under its control across the entire galaxy with trooeprs coming from all of them. that ONE first battle that we saw in the movie ended with the deaths of over 300 THOUSAND soldiers. that was barely even a single percentage of the Federation's total mobile infantry force.
we never even see a single army that size in the star wars movies.
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Scout troopers are Stormtroopers, therefore they should be allowed. Same as Sand and Snow troopers.
300,000? A single percentage? Is this said or implied in the movie? I forget?
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they lost a hundred thousand in the first hour. considering that those losses are considered the norm for the first half of the war that means by the time it ended they were losing almost a million soldiers.
just because they're wearing a suit doesn't mean they're infantry. as soon as they get on those speederbikes they become armored reconnaissance; its a military term.
We need six to step in and give us the number of allowed combatants. And if speeder bikes are allowed. Until then, this thread is gonna be a mess. Truth be told, the thread should be titled "The Federation versus the Empire."
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or maybe it should just stay the way it is and we all admit that the SST would win given the current circumstances.
weve already established that in an infantry only battle with the same numbers the SST would whoop the Empire's ass. ive already established that even with the empire's full amount of soldiers vs. the SST's full amount theres no proof that either has more people then the other, and the Empire would still get its ass kicked in an infantry only battle.
so whats there to discuss? the empire cant win without its ships.
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This is my point, there is no way of proving who has more troops. This is why six needs to give us an exact number. He was obligated to do so upon starting the thread.
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Did I say that? I never said that. But I will stand by the following statements:
If nukes are allowed, then durh, the ST would need to grossly outnumber the SST.
Laser rifles are much more advanced than a SST rifle, and there is no way to prove a SST rifle round will even penetrate ST armor. I watched the Battle of Endor earlier and I didnt see a scene where an Ewok arrow actually penetrated the white plastoid armor of a ST. Could be that I missed it, got a scene number?
No way no how SST can handle Stormtroopers AND scout troopers on speeder bikes that are armed with a blaster cannon. Those scout troopers were pretty dead on accurate with their aim.
SST are trained to fight big ass bugs. Fighting a human with a blaster rifle is as different as night and day.
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Hmm....Hard to tell if it oenetrated the while plastoid, or the black body glove.
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the SST are able to hit the inch long nerve stem on a bug while running in the opposite direction, killing it in one hit. Unlike the Stormtroopers they have superb aim and can hit one of the many weakspots on the armor. look at all the black body glove spots there are on the armor.
but that hardly matters. continue to scroll down on that page.
the armor was broken by them rolling down a hill... if it cracks from that what makes you think it can stand up to bullets fired at supersonic speeds?
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LOl I agree with that one guy man. You litearlly said that shit passes through flesh in the movies. I never seen ANY SW movie where the laser passed through.... When Han shot Greedo that ****er got shot with a laser. And it didnt go through. Every TRooper who got shot same thing. The lasers were just like "bullets" in the mean they can do harm and damage even kill but its not some crazy insane laser that will just vaporize anything in it's way it hits.
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