So there's evidence to support Wolverine being faster than Namor even in flight? I can understand Wolverine having the edge in combat speed, if for nothing else other than it being a necessity for their battles, but that doesn't mean he can prevent the tactic. It's not a case of whether or not Wolverine will allow it. It's whether or not he can do anything about it.
Has Namor ever tried the tactic and failed? If he has, then I concede the point, if he hasn't, then I don't understand the problem.
Bump the Namor and Wolvie thread if you're going to continue with this. I don't mind personally, as both are inferior to Wonderman, but it's better to discuss things in the threads they are supposed to be discussed.
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Not really it much more complex then that. Since your only example is possessed wolverine, which is not useable to begin with. Yes it not usable in positive light just as much as negative, but I responded to the entire arguement after the Bruins Game. I dident even wanna get into this, but guess I have no chioce now.
Not really. Wolverine has the edge in combat reflexes? That's swell and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. This isn't brain surgery. Either he's prevented the tactic or not.
Wow. Will Jinzin kill your family if you don't defend Wolverine to the last breath?
I saw that, but thanks for being a dick.
Fact you dont see how circumstancial the event is, just makes it amusing, but don't worry I adress your entire post in time, I have a job, dont have time nor the ability at the moment to be uploading scans.
But I dont worry rage I wont forget. But thanks for making things personal.
Hey, I was just being thorough. Didn't want you to miss anything.
Wolverine wasn't fully prepared. No more, no less.
I don't see why you have to go through so much trouble bud. Has it ever failed or not? Let's put it this way, is there any evidence of Wolverine countering Namor's flight? Less final but easier to respond to.
I didn't know having some fun at Wolverine's expense would upset you so much. I was unaware that you had a short Canadian shaped hole where your heart should be.
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Im shutting up now about my "problems". You got it rough, buddy.
Heh. Nah, im not gonna bump that old thread, just gonna put more time and effort into backing Spidey from now on. At least until he starts getting the respect on the vs forum.
Granted, he never faced anyone exactly like him.. But some of his enemies are way more versatile than Warpath, SM is a quickthinker.
Colossus level is a bit too far imo, Piotr is class 100+. Warpath is what? 70-80? And im pretty sure he barely has any strength feats to back up his weight class.
Well, why shouldnt he? Webbing is his only weapon and there are tons of examples of it working against simillar and even more powerful opponents. Pete uses it as often as Logan uses his claws so I dont see a reason why he wont choose to end the fight as fast as possible.
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You know what, it'd be a good idea to copy and paste posts from Spidey's respect thread from herochat... seeing as most KMCers aren't registered there (including me) and thus don't have the access.
Teenage Colossus (should have been more specific). His most notable strength feats were performed during his fight with Juggernaut and Demon Bear*, I believe.
His webbing didn't stop Rhino. Proudstar is close enough to him in strength department, has flight that impressed Stryfe himself and vibranium knives. If BP can break free of the webbing, Warpath sure as hell can
*James having fought the DEMON BEAR makes all of your arguments invalid, by the way It's like Batman riding an elephant.
I have the access, and some of the scans they posted in the respect thread were actually stolen from me. I was gonna post some scans in KMC's thread but too lazy. Will get to it eventually.
That one of the old x-force books? Been years since Ive read it. Didnt his strength change since then?
Rhino is secretly a herald of Galactus, he onwed Surfer and only lost because of PIS. There are plenty of characters in that weight class the webbing worked against. Vibranium would work great against a few threads of webbing. But Imagine a 20-feet radius web-ball, itd take him lots of time to get out of it if he could at all.
Pfft. Spider-man fought the Grizzly.
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Not nice. I always try to give the credit to the original uploader.
Who has made it anyway? Darkcrawler? Just quote his posts, so you won't have to organize and describe everything again.
I wanted to do Silver Samurai and Cyber threads, but laziness got the better of me
Yes, that's the one. X-Force vs. Classic Juggernaut, Shatterstar gouging his eyes out.
Since he's got the knives, his strength is written in a fashion similar to Wolverine, Sabretooth, Puma or Drax ('cept the last one got actually depowered), meaning he hardly ever lifts something or do stuff typical for other "strong guys". Cutting people up sells more comics, after all.
There was no official depowerement and X-Force writers stated in the interview they wanted him to be X-Force's Strong Guy. There's the Demon Bear's jaw feat, him embedding fingers in a steel door and ripping it out, him bullrushing Stryfe, but for more from modern era I'd have to look.
Like who? Who with Rhino's level strength couldn't break free? Not talking about being slowed down.
Webbing at its absolute best is ridiculous... good thing it's expensive and Parker is avaricious, he'd sooner get his ass handed to him than use more than 10% of the web fluid
They're gonna team-up and fight the Demon Grizzly!
Webbing at it's absolute best beats Wolverine without Spider-man.
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Cyber is meh.. But Samurai definitely needs a new respect thread. The guy is a beast.
Weird, could swear I heard they depowered him slightly. TBH cant remember that fight in details, only remember that it happened. Did he use his strength against Juggs? Cause if he held his own at least for awhile that's impressive.
Some of them tore it eventually, but it held long enough to count as win. There's Blob I mentioned, he was stopped cold and couldnt escape with just two cartriges. Then there's Ms. Marvel, held her down with just several threads. Rogue (yep im using the secret wars incident ), there was this mosnter it slowed down (forgot his name, but he was said to be in Hulk's weightclass), heck it slowed down Juggernaut's momentum. Warpath isnt escaping.
Parker is rich now. Give him a few issues and he'll move into Hefner's mansion.
They both lose to the mighty Ursa Major. The badass bear with a hammer.
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Classic Cyber didn't suck nearly as much as the one written by Way. But yeah, compared to other villains he's meh.
That's what you hear on the boards, but in fact he should be even stronger now, seeing as he's older. I read on Marvel Directory he has the potential to reach Class 90.
And where does it say in the rules? KO not being a permanent coma is fine, but incapacitation should be permanent, IMO.
Rogue didn't tear it to shreds only because she hoped for some fun with her teammates in that position.
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Yes, I'm reaching because I'm clearly so desperate. I'll admit, Logan was taken off guard to some extent, but the scene doesn't exactly hurt my argument:
It's like Batman riding an elephant.
I was gonna post some scans in KMC's thread but too lazy.
There are plenty of characters in that weight class the webbing worked against. Vibranium would work great against a few threads of webbing. But Imagine a 20-feet radius web-ball, itd take him lots of time to get out of it if he could at all. 
), there was this mosnter it slowed down (forgot his name, but he was said to be in Hulk's weightclass), heck it slowed down Juggernaut's momentum. Warpath isnt escaping.
