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MrMind
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cool, new52 is not the entirety of current dc cosmology

p52 and pre crisis are parellel universes within the dc multiverse, and convergence brought back all the pre flashpoint realities

https://i.imgur.com/dXLw4Vx_d.webp?...;fidelity=grand


jeff king the convergence writer even said so himself, Every character that ever existed, in any continuity and canon, is now accessible


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it's like talking to a wall

new52 is officially alternative earth, pre52 is rebirth is current timeline

new52 is alternative reality now, earth 52 is new 52

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you are trolling at this point, stop it


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When it comes to evidence in comics it's always been quality over quantity. And the fact that you fall back on any vague mention of the word "dimension" only serves to emphasize how weak your argument actually is.

But,despite yotr bullshit, There are many argument confirming existence of infinite dimensions.
They have been posted in this thread.
You have ignored all of them though.

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They're not talking about dimensional spaces here, they're talking about universes.

Based on what?
At least, Rama kushna has referd to dimensional space.
And,5th and 6th dimension are nothing about dimensional space.
They are above dimensional space.

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I'm not even downplaying it. This is literally what the comics say.

Only in your mind.

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It was never mentioned. Try again.

So,look at this.
And,Dr Manhattan confirmed that everything is canon and revolve around Supepman.
https://ibb.co/VwYbt4b

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Originally posted by MrMind
cool, new52 is not the entirety of current dc cosmology

p52 and pre crisis are parellel universes within the dc multiverse, and convergence brought back all the pre flashpoint realities

https://i.imgur.com/dXLw4Vx_d.webp?...;fidelity=grand


jeff king the convergence writer even said so himself, Every character that ever existed, in any continuity and canon, is now accessible


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it's like talking to a wall

new52 is officially alternative earth, pre52 is rebirth is current timeline

new52 is alternative reality now, earth 52 is new 52

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you are trolling at this point, stop it

I don't understand why people deny the fact that everything is canon.
It has been confirmed many times.

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CatL18, what nationality are you? I assume just like me, english is not your first language either?


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CatL8 is Chinese, I imagine.


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CatL8 is Chinese, I imagine.

No,I am asian though, I am not chinese.

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that's ok, DS is asian too, I'm half asian half saiyan


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But,despite yotr bullshit, There are many argument confirming existence of infinite dimensions.
They have been posted in this thread.
You have ignored all of them though.

I've not ignored a single one. In fact I've repeatedly pointed out that they're semantically incoherent with the argument you and MrMind are trying to make.

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Based on what?

Based on the text. I even highlighted it for you.

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At least, Rama kushna has referd to dimensional space.

No she wasn't. She and Deadman were in a realm between the living and the dead.

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It was, again, a universe. Or if you go by the story, a part of a universe.

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And,5th and 6th dimension are nothing about dimensional space.

They are above dimensional space.

Are you dense? Why would Mr. Mxyzptlk even explain the fifth and the sixth dimension as an extension of space-time if they were something else entirely?

They're obviously different modes of apprehension, just as time is different from space, but they were an extension of that system the entirety of which can be described with six-dimensional tensors.

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So,look at this.
And,Dr Manhattan confirmed that everything is canon and revolve around Supepman.
https://ibb.co/VwYbt4b

That's not what you said. You said that Doomsday Clock clearly outlined that there where infinite dimensions. You were wrong.

What you're posting now is a meta-commentary on the history of the Crises and the Multiverse. No one is denying that these events happened in some sense, but it's also completely irrelevant. Because there's no reliable references to greater spatial dimensions. And Mr. Mxyzptlk has always been among the most powerful characters in the setting, despite "only" being five-dimensional.

And Perpetua is six-dimensional, and everything that has ever happened in the DC Multiverse has always been within the confines of her six dimensions.

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Originally posted by Astner
I've not ignored a single one. In fact I've repeatedly pointed out that they're semantically incoherent with the argument you and MrMind are trying to make.


Based on the text. I even highlighted it for you.


No she wasn't. She and Deadman were in a realm between the living and the dead.

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It was, again, a universe. Or if you go by the story, a part of a universe.

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Are you dense? Why would Mr. Mxyzptlk even explain the fifth and the sixth dimension as an extension of space-time if they were something else entirely?

They're obviously different modes of apprehension, just as time is different from space, but they were an extension of that system the entirety of which can be described with six-dimensional tensors.


That's not what you said. You said that Doomsday Clock clearly outlined that there where infinite dimensions. You were wrong.

What you're posting now is a meta-commentary on the history of the Crises and the Multiverse. No one is denying that these events happened in some sense, but it's also completely irrelevant. Because there's no reliable references to greater spatial dimensions. And Mr. Mxyzptlk has always been among the most powerful characters in the setting, despite "only" being five-dimensional.

And Perpetua is six-dimensional, and everything that has ever happened in the DC Multiverse has always been within the confines of her six dimensions.


Question, so DC was never confirmed to be infinite?

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Question, so DC was never confirmed to be infinite?

Depends on what you mean with infinite. Its number of dimensions were always six according to the recent stories, so it was certainly finite in that sense. The number of universes were infinite during the Crisis on Infinite Earths and before Flashpoint. Currently there are 52 universe in the Multiverse and an "infinite" number unstable universes in the Dark Multiverse.

The universes themselves may well be infinite in measure, but I'm not sure on that.

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Depends on what you mean with infinite. Its number of dimensions were always six according to the recent stories, so it was certainly finite in that sense. The number of universes were infinite during the Crisis on Infinite Earths and before Flashpoint. Currently there are 52 universe in the Multiverse and an "infinite" number unstable universes in the Dark Multiverse.

The universes themselves may well be infinite in measure, but I'm not sure on that.


laughing out loud 6? That's funny, Marvel's dimensions is infinite

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are you trolling just to troll, albertroll?

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on the other hand the biggest existence in marvel, the beyond realm, has no evidence to be bigger than dark multiverse or the monitor realm

let alone 5th or 6th dimensions


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Also didn't Morrison's GL run mention dimension ZERO?
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So there are only six dimensions in DC just based on their names this logic is flawed, at least in dc's case.

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are you trolling just to troll, albertroll?

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on the other hand the biggest existence in marvel, the beyond realm, has no evidence to be bigger than dark multiverse or the monitor realm

let alone 5th or 6th dimensions


laughing out loud I wish i was, Marvel is HILARIOUSLY bigger than DC, These are ancient Multiverse embodiments, each of them existing before the current Marvel Multiverse, each of them still alive. That's SEVERAL Eternities, DC doesn't come close in terms of cosmology size.

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Metron talked about there are twenty eight dimensions currently KNOWN

the same was referenced again by in rock of ages

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the sphere of gods size alone dwarf the marvel multiverse

they are not material worlds but living ideas

there are as many universes as there are souls in heaven

new genesis view mortal universes as tiny bubbles

post secret wars marvel multiverse is not infinite, that was specifically stated in FF during the time they fought griever


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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
laughing out loud I wish i was, Marvel is HILARIOUSLY bigger than DC, These are ancient Multiverse embodiments, each of them existing before the current Marvel Multiverse, each of them still alive. That's SEVERAL Eternities, DC doesn't come close in terms of cosmology size.

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Those are just universes which were split into multiverses. The multiverse combined is weaker than a single universe.

Some weak multiverse right there.


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Snyder already addressed this

DC structure as we know it has expanded. Using Morrison’s map of the DCU isn’t enough. Obviously, it was expanded that neither the dark multiverse nor the “the sixth dimension”(aka the control room) are on the map.

Secondly, Snyder did not fully explain the entire structure because he either overlooked or didn’t bother to go into depth. He mentioned on an interview that the 5th and 6th dimension (imagination and the control room) are supposed to be the higher structural dimensions in DC. That does not mean there aren’t other dimensions within the DCu. There are multiple dimensions and picky universe within universe and other dimension. They are infinite in size (or at least hinted to be). That’s just how the structure is. Trying to argue this is ridiculous. Trying to argue the science behind that is just as dumb.

Outside of the DCU, there are other multiverses other there. We know this from recent Snyder’s work or various other issues. Doomsday was a good confirmation

Lastly, there will always be silly and stupid issues out there which somewhat contradict this. Was there once an issue which had Superman go to the 9th dimension which Mxy couldn’t reach...yeah there was 😂. Sadly that’s what happens


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