His argument is based completely off powerset while ignoring personality. Surfer doesn't use a tenth of his power during battle, so why would I bring up him fighting any different on KMC?
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Not really, He just mentioned someone with an incredible amount of power loosing vs someone like Spiderman, because of jobbing, just like when Hulk lost to that snake.
If you don't have a problem seeing Hulk "in character" loosing to a snake, I guess We are ok.
No, I accept all showings. Full capacity is fine and dandy but I don't ignore their best showings. I also believe the personalities of the characters come into play hence why you won't see me arguing Thor god blasts in every thread or bfrs. By arguing full capacity Thor doesn't fight like Thor typically fights. Whether you disagree with me or not I am as consistent as they come.
I've never complained about any of Hulk defeats, kind of like you dont complain when Shadowdragon speedblitzed Superman. It happens. Now if Hulk CONSISTENTLY got beat up by snakes and bears, then I dont have a choice but to accept it. His argument isn't about that though, his argument is based off powerset and it doesn't work like that.
15? I think it was a lot longer than that. Byrne was at the top of his game in those days. Anyways anyone saying that the Hulk would not be able to hit Superman probably are trying to ignore the way that he fights. Of course we can argue that he would fly up into orbit, and keep beaming him with heat ray vision, which would be completely out of character for him. Superman is an in fighter. He does use speed, but the Hulk has dealt with speed too many times in his history to say that he wouldn't be able to deal with it here. I kind of hope that -Pr- does close this up, because the people shouting low ball, are the ones doing it.
Well let's see here stoic. If the next time a hulk comic comes out and we see hulk get overpowered by someone like black widow would you want everyone bringing up this feat all the time or would you rather use higher feats
Yeah, I know. I just couldn't guess right off the top of my head, so I went with the best choice and added plus to it. The guy that asked the question cant stand Hulk. He could at least keep up with the character he tends to lowball. But whatever.
But both Superman, and the Hulk, not to mention every single Hero that was created has good and bad feats. If you pull out OWAW Superman, I don't think that it would be fair, because the Mod's will not allow us to pull out WB Hulk who was WW Hulk. If you concentrate on the bad feats it's obviously a low ball. Who did this?
You kept on bringing up people who are slow as hell that tagged supes and then made a statement that because of this hulk can tag him. But superman has higher feats that shows him dodging even faster attacks however you ignore those and go for the lower feats.