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Wolerine versus the Shredder.
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leonheartmm
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well, shredder has kept his own against pure energy beings capable of destroyein entire suspension bridges.

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Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
I could have sworn we were talking about skill.

You have to change the subject to strebgth all of a sudden to avoid anything that could be hazardous to your arguments.

And Wolverine is no more than peak human strength, so how is he stronger than Shredder?


Wolverine has low level superhuman strength. He has caried around the Hulk, held up an elevator, thrown a full dumpster down an ally with one arm, thrown a guy hard enough to crack concret... while they were both under water, tossed a shark out of the ocean on to a boat and has used a telephone sized logs as weapons.


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Wolverine has low level superhuman strength. He has caried around the Hulk, held up an elevator, thrown a full dumpster down an ally with one arm, thrown a guy hard enough to crack concret... while they were both under water, tossed a shark out of the ocean on to a boat and has used a telephone sized logs as weapons.


Those are just writers getting carried away, if you go by stats and what his mutant powers are , he does not have superhuman stregth. Tell me anywhere where is stats wolverine having superhuman stregth as one of his powers

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stats put him in a class of up to 25 tons lifting ability.. the class system isn't completely reliable.. but it's been in his described capabilities on paper...


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So what? If you have a higher post count than me and you've been here less than I have, that just proves you have no life and that all you spend your time on is posting. That's sad.
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being the most prolific poster in ALL of the whole forum, I am hurt...


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stats put him in a class of up to 25 tons lifting ability.. the class system isn't completely reliable.. but it's been in his described capabilities on paper...


All wolverine has is an adamantium skelaton, heightened sences, and a healing factor, he has never been stated to have superhuman stregth. It is simply not one of his mutant powers he is just peak human which it 700 pounds.

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O RLY?

dude get over it, ridiculous feats of strength is just something the guy does... no biggie.... but it is in his desribed powers.. don't believe me? hell it's in a recent issue of the thunderbolts.. he's stated to have superhuman strength...

mind you it's very very low end but he's lifting way more than 700 damned pounds.. batman shoulder presses 1,000.. common!

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lol u are wrong my superman302. wolverine has super human level 1 strength or another word for it is enchanced.( thunder bolts quess staring wolverine) states this. (hulks ultimate guide) (wolverines hand book 2004) (marvel.com) (the official marvel role playing game) with official stats. hmmm should I list more.

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Shredder is that sexy can opener right. I give it to the shred head because he beats up 4 hulks (the turtles) and a diseased rat.

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lol u are wrong my superman302. wolverine has super human level 1 strength or another word for it is enchanced.( thunder bolts quess staring wolverine) states this. (hulks ultimate guide) (wolverines hand book 2004) (marvel.com) (the official marvel role playing game) with official stats. hmmm should I list more.


Not to mention almost all of his comic book showings support this as well


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yup

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nu-uh! anyone with human strength can punch someone into a cement wall while under water! mad.....right? confused

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u notice he stop posting after I listed all the sources lol he was not exspecting that lol

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Even if he was 700 lbs, dude that is not weak by any means.

I only shoulder press 400 lbs, hell I wish I could shoulder press 700 lbs.
That's like lifting a siberian tiger, or a 500 lb lion and a 200lbs jaguar at the same time.


Wolverine is above this though, he does lift over 1,000 lbs according to the book.
He is inhanced strength.
He could lift a sibeian tiger and a lion at the same time max.

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He could lift a sibeian tiger and a lion at the same time max.


That would be the single greatest scene in comic history! Wolverine lefting a tiger and a lion in either hand... lol


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wolverine lifted a siberain tiger befor with one hand. he also picked up and throw 3 lions at once rather easiliy.

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All wolverine has is an adamantium skelaton, heightened sences, and a healing factor, he has never been stated to have superhuman stregth. It is simply not one of his mutant powers he is just peak human which it 700 pounds.
Which explains how all of wolverine's bios that list a lifting weight have him lifting more than that?

Marvel has him listed as a four on the strength scale. That range is "low level super human"

His cellular regeneration and frequent heavy excercise allow him without the adamantium to go up to the maximum potential that a human can reach. Then when you factor in the adamantium which would boost him up above peak human, he would indeed have superhuman strength

http://onelook.com/?w=superhuman&ls=a

"Above human". Being able to lift more than the most the strongest human(peak human) can lift is certainly "above" human.


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That elevator-lifting feat is not nearly as impressive as I previously thought it to be. Yes, he's holding a lot of weight, but it's more the fact this skeleton is holding him together. He has a death grip on the cable, and with his adamantium skeleton, he's able to stay together. If he was regular bone-claw Wolverine, he would be torn apart if he didn't let go of either cable. And he's even saying how badly it's hurting him to keep the elevator car suspended.

Give me an unbreakable skeleton and kung-fu grip action and I, too, can hold up an elevator car the same way. For a short period of time.


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I imagne us mortals would let go due to the Unbareable pain, but other then that ur right.

He's still peak human. His skeleton only ways 100 pounds, without the metal his total weight is 200 pounds. His off millitary press is 800 pounds.

He's still weaker then Steve, who is Peak human everything.

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I imagne us mortals would let go due to the Unbareable pain, but other then that ur right.

He's still peak human. His skeleton only ways 100 pounds, without the metal his total weight is 200 pounds. His off millitary press is 800 pounds.

He's still weaker then Steve, who is Peak human everything.


Exactly. Very good points. I agree completely.


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