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Dum Dum Dugan
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Exactly. He's beaten Wolverine, who's about in Creeds ballpark, give or take...

When would you be refferring to?

And do you really think DD stands a chance against WOlverine a fight?

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Basically, what it comes down to for me is Matt has the speed, and has the skills. Sabes has the healing factor and raw strength...
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Skill yes, speed no. Sabre-tooth is physically superior. he is faster and he is much much much much stronger. DD has no chance of dropping Sabre-tooth.

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Even with his healing factor, you can't tell me pressure point attacks coming from someone with Matts greater than street level strength won't have an effect, let alone an extended assault from him on, say, the back of Sabretooth's neck.

Do it doubtful then even phase Sabre-tooth. Ms Marvel though weaken at the time, failed against Sabre-tooth when she attempted a pressure point to assume DD could is quite a reach

Aug 16th, 2011 10:20 PM

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Skill yes, speed no. Sabre-tooth is physically superior. he is faster...

DD's multiple speed feats claim otherwise..

Not saying Sabretooth is slow, but Matt has the better feats in this area..

Aug 16th, 2011 10:22 PM

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DD's multiple speed feats claim otherwise..

Not saying Sabretooth is slow, but Matt has the better feats in this area..

DD stating inferiorty to characters like Capt stated other wise. You put far to much stock into bullet dodging. Sabre-tooth is well established as superior to characters like Wolverine phsyically who are superior to DD.

No he has better bullet dodging feats, which is not the end all be all. It very easy to see the level marvel has establish for each character.

Aug 16th, 2011 10:28 PM

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DD stating inferiorty to characters like Capt stated other wise. You put far to much stock into bullet dodging. Sabre-tooth is well established as superior to characters like Wolverine phsyically who are superior to DD.

No he has better bullet dodging feats, which is not the end all be all. It very easy to see the level marvel has establish for each character.

Cap also claimed Danny was possibly as good as Mantis, and that being that good simply isn't good enough against him.

By feats, Danny should be > Cap, and Mantis >>> Danny..

Aug 16th, 2011 10:38 PM

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Cap also claimed Danny was possibly as good as Mantis, and that being that good simply isn't good enough against him.

By feats, Danny should be > Cap, and Mantis >>> Danny..

yes and?

No really, and you have to take the context of the event into question. This was not some hyperbole. DD has made it very clear that Capt is on another level then him on more then one occassion and then proved it.

Aug 16th, 2011 10:43 PM

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When would you be refferring to?

Ennis, I bet.

Shingen's strike to the throat did not stop classic Wolverine who was recovering from poison and resisted other lethal nerve strikes. It's obvious a karate chop to the throat shouldn't do shit to him at current HF speed. It was PIS.

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DD's multiple speed feats claim otherwise..

Not saying Sabretooth is slow, but Matt has the better feats in this area..

Classic Sabretooth was faster than Logan and his speed has been upgraded two times. That's enough proof for me. And he tagged Mr Sinister's "Supermen".

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Classic Sabretooth was faster than Logan and his speed has been upgraded two times. That's enough proof for me. And he tagged Mr Sinister's "Supermen".

Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

Aug 16th, 2011 10:47 PM

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Blondeverine loses.

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Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

Haven't seen anything from Matt surpassing Wolverine's best feats.

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Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

No he not. Wolverine feats are better and iis well establish by marvel as superhuman.

Aug 16th, 2011 11:02 PM

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Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

Bold face lie.

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Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

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No he not. Wolverine feats are better and iis well establish by marvel as superhuman.

Yup. Wolverine is faster and stronger then Matt sad

Aug 17th, 2011 05:13 AM

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Matt is faster than Wolverine on combat feats, too.

Wolverine does have some impressive ones, but Matts are better.

Bullet timers have admitted Logan is faster.

Plus Logan feats of blocking friggin laser beams with his claws, to moving so fast that he disappeared in broad day light against Nightcrawler.

Yeah me thinks you need to debate more at CBR since that's seems to be your debating style.

Aug 17th, 2011 05:16 AM