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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Right...sure. So the black eyes were just an artistic goof then?
If you want to mince, black eyes shows that the Void is lurking. The voice shows that Void's in the driver's seat.

It doesn't have to be an "artistic goof." And flipping that argument, the bigger artistic goof would be him not speaking in Void's voice.

Frankly, Void's been present without the black eyes if you really want to focus on all the minutiae.


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Above anyone below skyfather? Point to a single character in the Trans Tier (or High Herald tier for that matter) who (Non-Voided) Sentry punked.


Why would I need to? The Void is Sentrys powerset. Why lowball him?


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Why would I need to? The Void is Sentrys powerset. Why lowball him?

Void and Sentry are effectively different characters, like Billy Batson and Captain Marvel. Even more, because their personalities are opposed.


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Black eyes != void


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Void and Sentry are effectively different characters, like Billy Batson and Captain Marvel. Even more, because their personalities are opposed.
Not a good analogy. And I can't think of a single feat of Void's that demonstrated more power than Sentry's banishing of Molecule Man.


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Void and Sentry are effectively different characters, like Billy Batson and Captain Marvel. Even more, because their personalities are opposed.


But yet they are the same character with just different personalities. It would be the same as if you were happy one moment and pissed off the next. The Void is the Sentry and vice versa. I cant help it the guy is a schizo and switches personailites at the drop of a dime.


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The thing about it people fail to realize that the void is feeding off of the sentrys power. There is no amp... nothing to increase his abilty... its all coming from the sentys body. You can make an argumentg for thor being amped from odin or his weapons or superman getting a sun dip... or a gl getting an outside amp but everything the void and sentry did came from one body without any outside interference or amp. So you all can argue all day that it was the void but what the void did sentry is capable of doing since the both of them share the same body and the same powers. The only difference is sentry holds back whereas the void doesn't.


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Spectre jobs though.

The JlA was once lifting spectre........ A magical powered CM was going head to head with Spectre ... for a while at least.

Spectre power range changes.

A well written spectre turns BA into stone



WTF your making excuses for the specter. Sentry is not even close to the ball park of the specter. And that magically powered captian marvel was well above scyfather at the time. he possesd most the magic in the galaxy at the time.

Sentry is nothing more then a poorly written character with tons of possibilities.


Sentry has got owned by herc lol.


Ba kills him

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^ Let's leave the Superman and/or Thor butt-hurt out of this, k?
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The thing about it people fail to realize that the void is feeding off of the sentrys power. There is no amp... nothing to increase his abilty... its all coming from the sentys body. You can make an argumentg for thor being amped from odin or his weapons or superman getting a sun dip... or a gl getting an outside amp but everything the void and sentry did came from one body without any outside interference or amp. So you all can argue all day that it was the void but what the void did sentry is capable of doing since the both of them share the same body and the same powers. The only difference is sentry holds back whereas the void doesn't.
Right idea but I'd argue that Sentry has had fights where he wasn't holding back.

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^ Let's leave the Superman and/or Thor butt-hurt out of this, k? Right idea but I'd argue that Sentry has had fights where he wasn't holding back.

EDIT: Fixed.


I can think of some times as well but I still wouldn't say that he went all out like void does with his powers.


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Void>>>Sentry.I thought this was clear?

Void is a team wrecker whereas sentry can be dispatched by thor and herc.


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Void>>>Sentry.I thought this was clear?

Void is a team wrecker whereas sentry can be dispatched by thor and herc.


Name two people that the sentry defeated black bolt.

The void and sentry are one... there is no such thing as one being greater than the other.

Everyone has low showings and did you not see how herc defeated sentry ( I know you didn't because you never seen the fight).

Out of void and sentry, sentry has the highest showings but again you might not know this.


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Name two people that the sentry defeated black bolt.

The void and sentry are one... there is no such thing as one being greater than the other.

Everyone has low showings and did you not see how herc defeated sentry ( I know you didn't because you never seen the fight).

Out of void and sentry, sentry has the highest showings but again you might not know this.
Then why is sentry a high herald and void is trans?


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Then why is sentry a high herald and void is trans?


Because again... sentry holds back. In almost every comic that he is in he goes insane because he feels as if he is unleashing too much power. When he goes nuts he wins. He owned absorbing man with ease... a being that gives thor trouble. He did good against collective and held his own and collective had all of the powers of some of the strongest beings on the planet and ran through teams like butter. He did good against genis... he owned terrax in one panel and the list goes on. Just because he had some low showings due to his mental compasity doesngt make him any less powerful than void since void and sentry did share bodies. Void didn't amp sentry he used sentrys powers in a fashion that sentry was affraid of using them in. By the way, a confident sentry beats adam 9 out of 10.


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I don't think its a matter of Sentry holding back so much as not knowing the extent of his power the way Void does.


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Because again... sentry holds back. In almost every comic that he is in he goes insane because he feels as if he is unleashing too much power. When he goes nuts he wins. He owned absorbing man with ease... a being that gives thor trouble. He did good against collective and held his own and collective had all of the powers of some of the strongest beings on the planet and ran through teams like butter. He did good against genis... he owned terrax in one panel and the list goes on. Just because he had some low showings due to his mental compasity doesngt make him any less powerful than void since void and sentry did share bodies. Void didn't amp sentry he used sentrys powers in a fashion that sentry was affraid of using them in. By the way, a confident sentry beats adam 9 out of 10.
If ranks were based on what they did instead of what they can do then superman and thor and surfer would not be high herald.


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I don't think its a matter of Sentry holding back so much as not knowing the extent of his power the way Void does.
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Right...because after that Sentry was always portrayed as totally in control of his faculties and powers. I still say he was heavily influenced by the Void there if not totally under its control.


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^ That's Sentry speaking. Not Void.


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Right...because after that Sentry was always portrayed as totally in control of his faculties and powers. I still say he was heavily influenced by the Void there if not totally under its control.
voidtry's eyes were red no expression


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