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Blade vs. Wolverine
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Originally posted by Master-Borg
so first Ennis, now Hudlin...how far are you going to take the tactic of blaming the writer whenever you can't face facts? pretty soon, we're going to run out of writers who are credible for battlehammer to debate


What the f**k?
Hudlin had Black Pnather putting arm bars on Silver Surfer.
Being better than Captain America
Having Wakanda more threatening than Latveria.
Doom a racist.
Apocalypse saying uhhhhggg.. "old school"
And Storm being speaking with ghetto slang.


He's the guy who made house party movies and was director for BET, you don't think his writings slightly bias?


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Originally posted by Master-Borg
except that this wasn't the first time Logan's been wowed by Panther's speed

its happened before, so Logan cant say he underestimated Panther

btw, Im not saying Panther is significantly faster than Logan, but he does have a slight advantage

And I'm leaving room for him to prove to have that advantage.. But Wolverine saying "woah fast" doesn't really prove Panther's faster.
Do you know how many times Wolverine and Beast have trained in the danger room, yet when they first fought outside of it Wolverine said he forgot how fast Beast was. Considering that their one encounter was over two decades ago it's not really unbelievable to assume that Logan would have forgotten BP's speed.


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Originally posted by jinzin
What the f**k?
Hudlin had Black Pnather putting arm bars on Silver Surfer.
Being better than Captain America
Having Wakanda more threatening than Latveria.
Doom a racist.
Apocalypse saying uhhhhggg.. "old school"
And Storm being speaking with ghetto slang.


He's the guy who made house party movies and was director for BET, you don't think his writings slightly bias?
he may be biased...that does not mean everything he writes is


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Originally posted by jinzin
And I'm leaving room for him to prove to have that advantage.. But Wolverine saying "woah fast" doesn't really prove Panther's faster.
Do you know how many times Wolverine and Beast have trained in the danger room, yet when they first fought outside of it Wolverine said he forgot how fast Beast was. Considering that their one encounter was over two decades ago it's not really unbelievable to assume that Logan would have forgotten BP's speed.
logan is supposedly a topnotch trained agent...he has no excuse of forgetting such an important detail, one that can cost him his life in a battle


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Originally posted by Master-Borg
he may be biased...that does not mean everything he writes is


But he was being bias in the very issue...............maybe you should read the issue before you keep talking.

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
he may be biased...that does not mean everything he writes is
It does when it concerns Black Panther.


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Originally posted by Master-Borg
logan is supposedly a topnotch trained agent...he has no excuse of forgetting such an important detail, one that can cost him his life in a battle


It been over 20 years blade panthers far from his biggest threat.


Not to mention he has a healing factor there no much BP could do to him.

it was written by hudlin who proved through out the arc how badly and inaccurately he potrayed the x-men.

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logan is supposedly a topnotch trained agent...he has no excuse of forgetting such an important detail, one that can cost him his life in a battle
You mean aside from having his head messed with for the better part of half a decade.. yeah no excuse at all. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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But he was being bias in the very issue...............maybe you should read the issue before you keep talking.
I just dont like this line of debating...oh the writer is biased, so we should not count the feat

guess what, there are writers who write things because they're bad writers

there are writers who write things because they're uninformed

theree are writers who are lazy

we can't go around eliminating feats and events because of some issue with the writer because that leads to a slippery slope


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I just dont like this line of debating...oh the writer is biased, so we should not count the feat


No you can count it, but you can not bases your entire opinion of a character of one event and even worses if the feat is written by a very known to be bias writer.

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guess what, there are writers who write things because they're bad writers

there are writers who write things because they're uninformed

theree are writers who are lazy

we can't go around eliminating feats and events because of some issue with the writer because that leads to a slippery slope

You can allow it if you want. Not saying it did not happen. I am saying it does no prove panther faster. It only proves Logan underestimated him. Also you should not bases your opinion of who faster on a single scann, let a lone a scan created by hudlin who known to be very bias when he writting for black panther.

and who in that very issue let his bias effect his work and badly characterized the x-men.
like I said panther has yet to prove he faster then wolverine.

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And niether of thoses fight were written by Hudlin now were they?


also "whoa fast" does not mean your faster it simply means your fast and it took me by surprizes. It called underestimating your opponets abilities.


In contest of champions Logan did the same thing he underestimate panther speed. However Panther then attacks Logan and states "there no way he could possess my jungle swiftness" only to be proven wrong by being smashed to the ground.

so acatully onpannell avidences agrees with me and goes against your self.
yes but recently black panther has gotten stronger, so I Dont think old fights should be used comparred to recent ones (because characters are bound to get stronger with time)

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yes but recently black panther has gotten stronger, so I Dont think old fights should be used comparred to recent ones (because characters are bound to get stronger with time)


prove it.

Sorry, but Black Panther not a mutant or anything that evolves.

He a human who took a plant that increased his abilities to peak preformances there no beyond that for him self.

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prove it.

Sorry, but Black Panther not a mutant or anything that evolves.

He a human who took a plant that increased his abilities to peak preformances there no beyond that for him self.
humans can't get stronger?


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humans can't get stronger?


if you are a peak-human you can't. Becauses your already at best your body can be there nothing beyond it unless you gain some sort of super power ect.

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humans can't get stronger?
Did you even read what he said?


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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Did you even read what he said?

cosigned. I sware he enjoys apearing as if he always has his head up his ass.

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I just dont like this line of debating...oh the writer is biased, so we should not count the feat

guess what, there are writers who write things because they're bad writers

there are writers who write things because they're uninformed

theree are writers who are lazy

we can't go around eliminating feats and events because of some issue with the writer because that leads to a slippery slope

Being a bad writer, or uninformed are completely different than KNOWING BETTER AND IGNORING IT ANYWAYS. And yes, we CAN go around elimiating feats when writers muck up in a MAJOR way, that's why the rules include a stipulation on things deemed PIS.

Keep in mind I don't know if Panther surprising Wolverine with his speed is necessarily PIS, but it's definitely a result of bias writing. I don't see how you could argue otherwise.


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Keep in mind I don't know if Panther surprising Wolverine with his speed is necessarily PIS, but it's definitely a result of bias writing. I don't see how you could argue otherwise.


I just don't see it as bad writing. Oh noes, Panther surprises Logan...the unthinkable has happened roll eyes (sarcastic)

gimme a break, its not like the surfer armbar event, this should not even raise an eyebrow


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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Did you even read what he said?
battlehammer said panther can't get stronger because he is already peak

that dismisses various ways Panther could get stronger, like taking other enhancements


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cosigned. I sware he enjoys apearing as if he always has his head up his ass.
how rude! mad


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