I disagree. Ranged blasting is not a particular weakness of hers, in large part because hitting her with powerful blasts generally means attacking from unexpected angles, which generally means not keeping at too much distance. She has the reaction to hit high-speed targets, and significant threats at both close and medium range.
I don't think anyone has said a sure fire way for either fighter to win. Stargate won't do it, hanging back and blasting won't do it, gravity manipulation won't do it. All can be avoided or have counters.
Cut his throat, wrap him in the lasso and slam him into stuff, hit him with a barrage of close attacks until he's KOed, keep a continual charge of Zeus's lightning on him so he's too stunned to fight back effectively. That's 4 right there.
He can just be beaten down, his healing is not so impressive that that won't work. Nova's tough and all but I don't know where you're getting the impression that he can't be taken out by herald level melee fighting.
All things go down with time, and I know that given enough time, anyone, no matter how tough they are, can be taken down by Melee. My point of it is though: The length of time it would take for WW to actually defeat Nova through the use of Melee would have been a situation where Nova would have found a way to beat her. You say gravity, stargates and blasting won't do it, but what makes you think that they can't?
Fact of the matter is that as long as Richard has the Worldmind I can't ever really picture myself saying that he is going to get defeated by WW melee. The Worldmind could observe WW's fighting style, and upload into Rich's brain fighting techniques that would help to give him the upper hand.
And the thing about those four that you gave for knocking Nova out? We went through that before, and I gave the most sensible reasons I could come up with with why they wouldn't be as effective as they might sound.
So when someone says something you can't find a sensible reason to disagree with, your last line of defense is to call them a danboy and then run off?
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So you didnt call me biased? Emotional? All the while trying to shove yoir biased opinion down my throat. IMO that's a very good reason to call a Nova fanboy a fanboy then running off because i rather not get warned for calling you out on your biased point of view.
The Aegis vambraces are one hell of an equalizer though.
They're fantastic defenses against just about anything, up to skyfather level attacks and even exotic attacks like the Canary Cry. Being able to block gravity isn't out of the question.
I did call you biased, because I think you've been biased from the very start. Nova is my second favorite marvel character right after Beta Ray Bill, and yeah I'm pretty close to being a fanboy, I'll admit that, but I don't let it impair my judgement.
I didn't shove my opinion down your throat, I said what I believed, and gave you a chance to say yours. You didn't come up with anything we hadn't already argued about but instead started shortening your points to one-liners based on that you think WW would win. Then when I ask how no good reason surfaces.
And I did call you emotional because of your posts before that. Go look at the two posts, the one sent to dmills about me and the one to me right before that. You were already getting hostile towards me, if that isn't emotional then I don't know what you'd describe it as.
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You started with the adhomenims way back on page 2 of this thread. Based on the rational and CIVIL debate going on between Q, psycho and myself, I say that you have reacted somewhat emotionally.
True, but comics are crazy like that. Drax actually ripped apart a star with his bare hands, for instance.
Or Persuader actually cutting off gravity, by literally cutting into gravity with his atomic axe.
Besides, Annihilus's defensive shields managed to defend against Nova's gravity based powers. WW's defenses have the pedigree to defend against them, given all the things it's guarded against in her career..
I can honestly say Im not biased dont care if you believe me or not but its obvious you are a Nova fanatic and you saying Wonder Woman has no way of wining leads me to believe you are biased as if it wasnt obvious before. Either way I think Wonder Woman takes the majority think what you want
Ah but as you know there's a difference between his grav pulses and him actually using his gravimetric energy to manipulate gravity. He never grav manipulated Annihilus (CIS I know).
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Star Trek reckons they are easy to disrupt and avoid.
Gravity Beam
Gravity beams can be used as an attractive or repulsive force. A beam of highly charged anti-gravitons or posi-gravitons can exert a pulling or pushing force against objects at either end of the beam.
Gravity beams are somewhat easy to either avoid, disrupt or reverse. It is also impossible to use a gravity beam on shielded objects.
agree with aegis bracers blocking some of Richie's attacks. so far Richie seems to have to place a grav beam at someone or something to mess with their shiet. WOndy is definitely fast enough to avoid some of those. hard fight either way. I just think Richie has so many things at his disposal to win a slight majority.
Trust me that was far from me acting emotional I'm pretty much like that in most threads and he wasnt helping the situation. Civil? Maybe between you three but he has been pretty arrogant and hostile since he started adressing me.