First thing, I didn't say all of them, just some and if you look at the host of powers they have, you'll see why I said they could beat him. Dark made that list for a reason and right after his post, he bring up a physical confrontation. All of those people he mentioned have the ability to basically (not all but majority) get RID of Hulk not put him DOWN. I asked PR who could put Hulk DOWN, not remove him off of the battle field in which majority of that list can do. This doesn't include other means like Dark putting Wonder Woman on that same list...why do you think he put her on there...not because of her strength...its her LASSO. Learn the difference between "put down" and defeat.
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A win is a win Carver...ss doesn't even have to bfr him, he can revert him. Anyone with intangibility can phase away organs. Blink,.aoa NC ect can teleport off limbs.
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Interesting theory.
Surfer was "unable" of reverting a Banner less hulk, but it wasn't because he was not able to draw the energy away from him, but because a Banner less Hulk has no Banner to revert.
IIRC Hulk said "If You keep trying to revert me, You will kill me" because there was no Banner.
Now, You say He can't do it, care to show why?
Remember Banner less Hulk reaches critical mass like WBH but the amount of energy generated by a Banner less hulk it seems to be greater as his energy disintegrates by touch, unlike WB's.
So care to show why?
Oh yes and IIRC it has been said that if you cut the head is game over. Though they might have changed that, Oh yes but I remember you said on another thread that You don't like to use recent showings, because they throw away the history of the character, so probably it won't matter anyway. But theoretically speaking, what do you think it will happen if someone lobotomized/vaporize the medulla oblongata? Theoretically speaking of course.
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Using Superman's entire history he would end WWH very quickly. Remember although Superman has high planetary level strength he holds back. But his holding back will decrease the more he deems necessary. Also he can bfr him to space anytime he wants.
Also speed kills especially when Superman DECIDES to use it.
Carver as much as I like Hulk you got to stop using this silly logic. You of all people should know that characters don't perform the same in every comic. There are fluctuations in character's ability (shit that range from straining to lift carriers to moving planets, shit like going millions of times faster than light vs. moving slower than a bullet). My point is
Just because Glads has shown nanosecond reflexes and speeds greater than light doesn't mean he came anywhere in the vicinity of that range when he fought Hulk.
Did you know that light is so fast that it can circle the Entire Earth more than 7 times in one second. I bet you can't count to 7 in one second. Yet Glads tried to carry Hulk to space, (hundreds of times less than the distance around the Earth) and it took him many seconds to try. This is far far far under the speed of light it's not funny. By feats, Glads has shown sufficient strength to knock Hulk into space. Yet he tried to carry him there since the writer didn't believe Glads was strong enough.
So again, if a character isn't ACTUALLY using FTL speed and nanosecond reflexes in a comic then you can't assume the other character can actually engage a character who will use FTL speeds and nanosecond reflexes.
On a more serious ish note, IMO, ok, this is WWH. If we wrote everyone down to a H2H fisticuffs style fight, any high herald, fighting pretty dumbly (using pure strength to fight on his terms), would get their asses handed to them. Physical brawls are Hulk's forte, and he ain't losing those. The story arc was pretty much proof of that.
Once you bring other powers into play, however, and its much more of a fight.
Did the inclusion of the Muramasa blade stir any fond memories, Carver? Its how we first met
I'm not saying this as a knock, but when has Glads shown nano-second reaction speed? Can u show a scan? again, not doubting you, i would just like to see it.
This is a very good feat for Gladiator (and Hyperion), but Superman is even beyond nano-second reaction time (especially considering his interactions with the Flash). But this is probably by FAR the best speed feat for anyone from Marvel. Superman has feats of at least reacting in atto-seconds. (that's one QUIN-TILLIONTH OF A SECOND). Of course that's pre- reboot Superman.
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