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WW vs. Thor: pure h2h cage match
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Originally posted by FrothByte
The post I replied to was you specifically talking about baseball, not bullets. That's what I disagree with, that batters somehow see the baseball approaching in slow motion. Please try to keep up.

Though ping pong balls are not as fast as baseballs, they also travel less distance.


It's impossible for you to tell me what my experience is about seeing a baseball is false. If you see time slower than you use to then no one can tell you that you are wrong. It's not even a debate. You can clearly just say I don't believe you. Discussion is over.


A 60mph faster was a complete blur to me, a streak of lightning. Now it is like it is floating in the air for a long time. My perception has changed and now I view 60mph much slower than I did when I first encountered them?

This is the truth whether you believe it or not. Also, a science documentary explained that flies see things far slower than humans.

The perception of time is relative.


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Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
What about Thors star feat? Has that been discussed yet?


Yes. It was a heat and radiation resistance feat.
Thor got pushed towards the forge when he let go. The net force on him can be calculated as the product of his mass times his acceleration.


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It's impossible for you to tell me what my experience is about seeing a baseball is false. If you see time slower than you use to then no one can tell you that you are wrong. It's not even a debate. You can clearly just say I don't believe you. Discussion is over.


A 60mph faster was a complete blur to me, a streak of lightning. Now it is like it is floating in the air for a long time. My perception has changed and now I view 60mph much slower than I did when I first encountered them?

This is the truth whether you believe it or not. Also, a science documentary explained that flies see things far slower than humans.

The perception of time is relative.


It is also impossible for you to say that your perception of time is any better than that of other "normal" humans.

Perhaps you just normally have slower perception than everyone, and when your perception finally sped up you ended up just becoming normal like others. Who knows.

Bottom line is, there's no proof that batters somehow see fast moving objects in slower motion that other people.


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Originally posted by FrothByte
It is also impossible for you to say that your perception of time is any better than that of other "normal" humans.

Perhaps you just normally have slower perception than everyone, and when your perception finally sped up you ended up just becoming normal like others. Who knows.

Bottom line is, there's no proof that batters somehow see fast moving objects in slower motion that other people.


An experienced baseball player is not a normal human.
Anyone who relies on peak human reflexes (~ 0.2 second reactions) and perception on a consistent basis is not a normal human.
Normal is defined as the middle 95% (think of the bell curve).

Another example, I took my ex girlfriend to the park years ago. I made her try to hit my fastball (we used the gate as the backstop). She complained that she cant see the ball and that it's too fast. Fast forward to few years later. She has multiple times tagged my fastballs as well as fastballs in the fast batting cages. She says that the ball appears to be slower than what she first saw.

Another example, I trained her on table tennis (yes I'm an experienced player). She could not even see my smashes. They were a complete blur to her. Years later, she blocks the hell out of them with near perfection. I have a hard time beating her and have to rely more on English tricks along with sideline control, instead of setting up smashes.

But all of this is irrelevant. We clearly see Diana following the bullet (in shock) as if time as slowed down.

Quicksilver, Smallville, flash, Spider-Man, etc are all portrayed to see things slower than a normal human does. This is a fictional law.

To say WW does not see bullets any slower than a human is trolling. Not only we have movie evidence but ALL speedsters perceive things that way. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to respond.


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The only reason she couldn't hit your fastball is because she couldn't lift the bat with her paws.


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Originally posted by h1a8
An experienced baseball player is not a normal human.
Anyone who relies on peak human reflexes (~ 0.2 second reactions) and perception on a consistent basis is not a normal human.
Normal is defined as the middle 95% (think of the bell curve).

Another example, I took my ex girlfriend to the park years ago. I made her try to hit my fastball (we used the gate as the backstop). She complained that she cant see the ball and that it's too fast. Fast forward to few years later. She has multiple times tagged my fastballs as well as fastballs in the fast batting cages. She says that the ball appears to be slower than what she first saw.

Another example, I trained her on table tennis (yes I'm an experienced player). She could not even see my smashes. They were a complete blur to her. Years later, she blocks the hell out of them with near perfection. I have a hard time beating her and have to rely more on English tricks along with sideline control, instead of setting up smashes.

But all of this is irrelevant. We clearly see Diana following the bullet (in shock) as if time as slowed down.

Quicksilver, Smallville, flash, Spider-Man, etc are all portrayed to see things slower than a normal human does. This is a fictional law.

To say WW does not see bullets any slower than a human is trolling. Not only we have movie evidence but ALL speedsters perceive things that way. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to respond.


I think you're confusing the word "normal" for "average". Baseball players are not the average joes around but they're definitely still normal humans.

Anyway, no one here believes your stories. Save them for the kids.


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Originally posted by FrothByte
I think you're confusing the word "normal" for "average". Baseball players are not the average joes around but they're definitely still normal humans.

Anyway, no one here believes your stories. Save them for the kids.


You need to look up the definition of the word normal (root word is Norm). You have no clue to what you are talking about.
Try not to argue semantics.


I don't care what you believe. Just agree to disagree. It's all fine with me. I know the truth.


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Originally posted by h1a8
An experienced baseball player is not a normal human.
Anyone who relies on peak human reflexes (~ 0.2 second reactions) and perception on a consistent basis is not a normal human.
Normal is defined as the middle 95% (think of the bell curve).

Another example, I took my ex girlfriend to the park years ago. I made her try to hit my fastball (we used the gate as the backstop). She complained that she cant see the ball and that it's too fast. Fast forward to few years later. She has multiple times tagged my fastballs as well as fastballs in the fast batting cages. She says that the ball appears to be slower than what she first saw.

Another example, I trained her on table tennis (yes I'm an experienced player). She could not even see my smashes. They were a complete blur to her. Years later, she blocks the hell out of them with near perfection. I have a hard time beating her and have to rely more on English tricks along with sideline control, instead of setting up smashes.

But all of this is irrelevant. We clearly see Diana following the bullet (in shock) as if time as slowed down.

Quicksilver, Smallville, flash, Spider-Man, etc are all portrayed to see things slower than a normal human does. This is a fictional law.

To say WW does not see bullets any slower than a human is trolling. Not only we have movie evidence but ALL speedsters perceive things that way. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to respond.
She could always physically perceive the ball whether she realized it or not, she developed her proprioception.

Idk what you guys are arguing about, just wanted to say that.


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She could always physically perceive the ball whether she realized it or not, she developed her proprioception.

Idk what you guys are arguing about, just wanted to say that.


I think the argument is that H1 wants to convince everyone that he is superhuman.


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I think the argument is that H1 wants to convince everyone that he is superhuman.


Idiot post. Take a class on statistics. Learn what a normal distribution is. Not normal doesnt mean superhuman, it means in low percentage tail area of the population.

For example, a baby born at 5lb or at 10lb is outside the normal range and therefore considered not a normal birth weight. Superhuman has nothing to do with anything here.


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She could always physically perceive the ball whether she realized it or not, she developed her proprioception.

Idk what you guys are arguing about, just wanted to say that.
I think you are using proprioception wrong. It means perception of one's own body, not a moving object outside the body.

A 60mph was once a blur, a streak of lightning to me. Now it is slower than the slowest change up, staying in the air for a long time.

As my reflexes improved, I began to perceive fastballs slower than what I used to.

Little children have very slow reflexes. They respond much later than adults and view fast moving things faster than adults.


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I think you are using proprioception wrong. It means perception of one's own body, not a moving object outside the body.

A 60mph was once a blur, a streak of lightning to me. Now it is slower than the slowest change up, staying in the air for a long time.

As my reflexes improved, I began to perceive fastballs slower than what I used to.

Little children have very slow reflexes. They respond much later than adults and view fast moving things faster than adults.

Your brain could always perceive the ball whether you consciously realized it or not. Improving reflexes is a result of improving proprioception. You're able to focus on the ball and not have to think about the movement of your body, this makes the ball look slower.

Little children have poor proprioception.


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Your brain could always perceive the ball whether you consciously realized it or not. Improving reflexes is a result of improving proprioception. You're able to focus on the ball and not have to think about the movement of your body, this makes the ball look slower.

Little children have poor proprioception.


Obviously the ball is not slower but rather APPEARS slower to the human mind. That's the point.

A 60mph baseball appears slower to me than when I first encountered it.


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Obviously the ball is not slower but rather APPEARS slower to the human mind. That's the point.

A 60mph baseball appears slower to me than when I first encountered it.
Yes, I know.


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The initial argument stemmed whether WW is bulletproof. You even have members posting shit with bullets bouncing off WW's boobs.

The only thing you proved with this is that you have no brains to even comprehend what is a joke
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HulkIsHulk initially suggested that WW is bulletproof because of the sword catch.
Frost, me, and Hulk been discussing the issue since then. Go back and reread.

I never said emphatically that WW is bulletproof. Stop twisting my words. I am saying that it is hard to say definitely that she was vulnerable since she never got cut onscreen and that there may be a chance she MAY not as vulnerable to piercing as classically due to the sword catch


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Your brain could always perceive the ball whether you consciously realized it or not. Improving reflexes is a result of improving proprioception. You're able to focus on the ball and not have to think about the movement of your body, this makes the ball look slower.

Little children have poor proprioception.


H1 is a little child.


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The only thing you proved with this is that you have no brains to even comprehend what is a joke

I never said emphatically that WW is bulletproof. Stop twisting my words. I am saying that it is hard to say definitely that she was vulnerable since she never got cut onscreen and that there may be a chance she MAY not as vulnerable to piercing as classically due to the sword catch


I know it was a joke (an old one at that). What makes you think that I didn't know the boob scan wasn't a joke?

You were suggesting that her being cut resistant holds some evidence towards her being bulletproof. The argument had nothing to do speed and perceptions as Silent trolled about.


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No, he has a quote of you talking specifically about speed.


h1 has always been a liar.


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Hormal humans dont see in slow motion but baseball players do.


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Actually baseball players see a fastball much slower than a normal person. I'm a living witness to this.


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