KMC Forums - Hulk vs. Doomsday

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Originally posted by peejayd
* you seem to know a lot, dude. please elaborate the extent of Doomsday's powers, for us to determine the outcome of this fight... thanks!

Well my grandmother could tell you more about the Hulk than I could so I'll let someone else cover him, but Doomsday has been one of my favorite villians since I was a kid. I'll go through the different versions of Doomsday here so you don't have to dig through the Thanos v. Doomsday thread. I've been wanting to write a doomsday essay for awhile now anyway smile

Doomsday was made in a genetics experiment on Krypton a hundred thousand years ago or so. At the time, Krypton was a nasty place, with extremely hot temperatures, a toxic atmosphere and tough, ugly monsters roaming around that somewhat resembled the critters from the Aliens movies.

The scientist conducting the experiment, Burtron, set up shop in a protected laboratory and began his experiment. He took an infant, which resembled a human infant although it wasn't made clear what species it was, and shot it out into the wild. It was killed within seconds, but samples of what was left of it was collected and a clone was engineered.

Burtron repeated this process thousands of times over the next few decades, and each time the infant was sent into the wilderness, it survived a bit longer than the previous time. Eventually, it survived hours, than days, then weeks. Soon it was systematically hunting down all the monsters that lived on the planet, to the point of extinction. It's interesting to note that if Doomsday at that point had not hunted all those creatures down, there probably wouldn't have been a civilization on Krypton for Superman to be born on, but I digress.

At that point, Burtron had taken to calling his creation 'The Ultimate'. A superior being that was beyond death, it didn't have to eat or drink and could store solar energy for millennia if nessesarry (another tangent, but many people here seem to think that throwing DD into the sun could kill him; but he's like Superman, a solar battery, throwing him into the sun would be a bad idea. Unlike Superman, he isn't limited to yellow suns). If The Ultimate should come across a being stronger than himself, and be killed, he would come back to life superior to whatever killed him.

An unfortunate side effect of the experiment that Burtron had not forseen, however, was that Doomsday could remember vividly all the thousands of agonizing deaths he had experienced over the course of a few decades. He came to hate all life because of it, he was a being of pure anger, hate and rage. And he knew Burtron was behind the experiments.

After he turned Burtron and his science team into goo on the floor, he hitched a ride on an automated supply ship off the desolated planet. From then on he jumped from planet to planet, wiping out entire civilizations single handedly. He came then to be known as The Armeggedon Creature, considered just a legend in many places but feared everywhere.

Eventually, after wiping out a decent chunk of the Green Lantern corps (getting blasted so hard by them that he got thrown through a hole ripped in space, but still surviving) and having a brief run in with darkseid, he landed on Calaton. Here, after wiping out most of the planet, he met the energy being called The Radiant, who finally managed to beat Doomsday in a week long battle that destroyed most of what was left of the planet. The survivors, not knowing the nature of the beast, buried him in the traditional manner for murderers on their planet; bound in chains and shot into space to drift forever.

Eventually though, he landed on Earth. This is where the different versions of DD come in. I'll list them:

Death of Superman Doomsday: After he awoke from death for the first time; he had only been beaten by The Radiant at this point. He took down a weak version of the Justice League in a few minutes and then had his famous fight with Superman. Supes managed to beat him, and later the Cyborg imposter superman through Doomsdays body into space. This Doomsday was beaten to death by Superman, so I don' think Hulk would have much trouble doing the same. Hulk wins against this Doomsday.

Hunter/Prey Doomsday: Considered by many to be the most powerful version of Doomsday. Having already been killed by Superman, he was well past Supermans ability to take him down at this point. He beat the living shit out of Supes; He ripped a hole in his shoulder, broke him arm backwards, and gave him a concussion. Superman was blacking out and barely concious and Doomsday hadn't even broken a sweat. This Doomsday also laughed off a blast from the Omega Beams, beat the crap out of Darkseid, killed The Radiant (the guy who killed him before he got to Earth) in seconds, and got about as close to killing Waverider, another energy being, as anyone could. He also shook off a blast equal to 100 million nukes going off at once, which flattened most of the planet he was on. The only reason Superman wasn't killed again, and ripped to pieces, was because Waveriders time-travelling device was used to take him to the end of the Universe and leave him there. Quite the baddass indeed. He also demonstrated his ability to evolve on the fly in combat here. I doubt Hulk would survive long enough in a fight with this Doomsday to get mad enough to hurt him. This Doomsday wins.

Doomsday Rex: After being saved from the end of time by Brainiac, Doomsday is let loose to fight Imperiex, who vaporized Doomsday down to his bones with a blast so powerful it burned Superman, who was not very close at all. Doomsdays bones were collected by Lexcorp and he remade Doomsday; since they used Doomsdays existing DNA, he most likely retained his last evolution, which would put him in a power range so high that even Imperiex wouldn't be able to hurt him. This explains how massively powerful he is in the Gog Wars.
He also, however, developed some intelligence. Superman used his newfound intelligence against him when they fought; Doomsday didn't know how to deal with his new emotions and thoughts, and found that he was afraid of death. And I guess that makes sense for a guy whose been dead a few thousand times. Anyway, Supes uses that fear against him and manages to K.O him. Again, if Supes can do it than so can Hulk...Hulk wins against this Doomsday.

Gog Wars Doomsday: This is what I would consider the most powerful version of the character. Gog is a bad guy; Superman has a hard time handling one of him. Gog had control of the timestream and was summoning other gogs from across various timelines to fight Superman, and they were kicking the bajeezus out of him. Doomsday happened to find himself on Earth, and decided to help Superman in the fight against the Gog army, since there was only one Superman to kill after all, and Doomsday wanted to do it. Seems a little greedy of Doomsday since he already killed him once, I think he should give other people a turn.

Superman was killed, but Doomsday began to slaughter the army of Gogs. He fought them for a hundred years straight, killing thousands of them, to get to the original gog. He spent decades tunnelling through miles of Granite to get to him. He truley was ****ing Uber powerful. Try as I might, I can't see Hulk winning against this Doomsday. He could have a hundred years to sit and have a mime slap him in the face and he wouldn't be pissed off enough to take on this Doomsday. Gog Wars Doomsday wins imo.

It should be noted that at the end of the Gog Wars, Doomsday agrees to turn back time to fix everything that went wrong and to save Superman (who he had come to respect as a father figure), at the cost of becoming a monster again. Since he was last seen as 'a monster' before the Doomsday Rex storyline, his next appearance may have him reverted back to Hunter/Prey Doomsday. That's yet to be seen though.

Phew. Hope somebody decides to read that wink

I really like the character Doomsday. With the right writer, he could be a very tragic character, if you couple his new intelligence with his tortured beginnings. It's a shame that DC tends to waste such potential.

I'm gonna go wrap my wrists in ice, and save this damned thing for whenever a 'Doomsday vs...' thread comes up.