No. Current juggy is not as powerful as his classic incarnation. Cyrotak took away most of his power after he refused to do something for him. He still strong but not nowhere near as strong as his classic incarnation.
True that but he is still left with class 100 strength 7/7 but not as strong just as burable , but it is stated in xmen 2004, juggernaut is class 100 in strength 7/7 and still a 7/7 in durability. And the recent xmen 2005 handbook stated that colossus is 6/7 in strength and 6/7 in durability.
Grab the xmen 2004 handbook, and then grab 2005 xmen the recent one. Juggernaut was expose to the power for so long he still have some of it's power. Just get up odd your lazy butt and go to the comic book store and grab both handbooks it tedls you why he still have some of the power.
They don't have the same power. he still very strong put they don't have the same power. Stop using the handbooks and get off your lazy butt and get the comics.
I do have the comics and chill the f**k out it's only comics. Dude you are acting like it's your life. Juggernaut is stronger than colossus, if you don't like it tuff sh**.
there are a lot of people in class 100. doesn't mean they all have the same strenght. thanos is in class 100. does that mean he has the same strenght as the Silver surfer?
If you have the comics then you would have noticed current juggy struggling with something that wasn't even at 616 colossus level. What makes you think he would be able to take on Ultimate colossus in his current form.
Darkone if you would have looked at the pick Snoopdogg posted it clearly shows Juggernaut struggling even before he can come close to Colossus strength so why it still has Juggernaut 7/7 strength I dont no, but its bull.
I've never read the hanbook, but it also states that Ultimate Colossus strength is lv 6 which should be lv 7, because he has surpassed 100 tons more than a couple times in the Ultimate Universe.(1) Ultimate Colossus carried a 7000 ton K-14 submarine out of the water which was full of people, and half full with water.(2) He stoped a train in it's trackes when it was full of cars.(3) he threw a 200 ton sentinel houndreds of feet in the air.(4) He stoped a Farris Wheel in its tracks.(5) Overcame Magneto's grip which exerts over 30,000 tons.
The Handbook states that Ultimate Colossus durability is lv 6 which should be 7 simply because he survived a nuke blast ,was not hurt when lava was pured on his skin, and survived all the pressure from the water when he was miles from shore.
The handbook states that Ultimate Colossus eyes stay the same when he transforms which is bull, because his eyes would have been decinegrated when the nuke went off, they would have been damaged when lava was pured on top of him, and would have popped out of his head when he was in the ocean miles from shore.
All this means the handbook is bull so dont go off what it says
The current Juggernaut is far weaker than his former self face it.
Yeah well, Namor has done similar things and more, and handbooks still list him as 6 in strenght and durability...go figure. Handbooks are not trustworthy. They pull those numbers out of the hat.
Actually the panel is misleading cause right after Havok says that Juggernaut's reply is. "Whos says I'm struggling?" then he lifts it and tells Havok to turn it up.
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