Thanos can not beat Dr Strange

Started by long pig10 pages

Man thing is so underrated. Just....wow. As for namor. hulk, Jug and Thanos clone, he's beat them all. Are you dumb enough to think them touching Strange was anything but PIS? If I kick your god's ass, what chance do you have against me? I'll admit defeate if you show Thanos match Strange's best Time control feat, matter manipulation feat, Telepathic telekenetic feat, energy manipulation-absorbsion feat. Hell, just show of ONE thing Thanos is superior to Strange at other than Strength or durability. Just one.

Originally posted by long pig
' Thanos will punch him' lol. How stupid. SR J, you really should check out Strange's durability and time control feats before making a fool out of yourself. You also need to know what classic strange is, because nearly everything you mentioned was depowered Strange. Which means you're ignorant of the character, or a liar. Most likely both. Strange lost his powers in the early to mid 90's and has yet to fully regain them. Just more proof that nuthuggers are willing to lie cheat and debate a topic they are ignorant of just to squeeze that sack. Respect your elders.
First off, I said hit him, you know, not limited what he hits him with. Second, it's happened so many times. Third, I think YOU need to read Strange's appearances.

Forth, like I've said before, prove it. Or is this more stuff you claim but can't back up? The only thing that happened then is when Strange temporarily lost the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme, and guess what, none of the feats I said happened during that time. Crazy shit huh?
True though, just more nuthuggers willling to lie and cheat. 😉

'Nuthuggers' is still odd seeing you type though. Someone who goes around saying Odin vs Strange is a hard fought fight, and getting almost every Strange feat wrong should really hold off using that word. Just my opinion though, I mean, the word is unjustified here really on the side of Thanos fans...

Originally posted by long pig
Man thing is so underrated. Just....wow. As for namor. hulk, Jug and Thanos clone, he's beat them all. Are you dumb enough to think them touching Strange was anything but PIS? If I kick your god's ass, what chance do you have against me? I'll admit defeate if you show Thanos match Strange's best Time control feat, matter manipulation feat, Telepathic telekenetic feat, energy manipulation-absorbsion feat. Hell, just show of ONE thing Thanos is superior to Strange at other than Strength or durability. Just one.
Man-Thing isn't underrated enough to be relevant to this discussion.
I realize he's beaten them, but he's also lost to them too. Anyway, scans of him beating Juggernaut?
And he beat Mystic, and got crushed against Warrior.

I don't think you actually understand what I just said even though I explained it clearly. It's OK, that's cool, let me explain again, so you have no reason to ignore it.
I said those people because Strange has been KO'ed by them, and they were under Surfer (minus the Thanos clone). You said Thanos would lose to people under Surfer, yet it's never happened, but at the same time, Strange has. So you tried to downplay Thanos by saying he'd lose to people under Surfer, but you actually downplayed Strange instead accidentally. It's funny.
"Hey bro Thanos would lose to mid heralds and lower, but let's ignore Strange losing to these people!!! AWESOME!"
logic

lol at you calling him getting hit PIS. I forgot how unhittable and invincible Dr Strange was.

Strange never kicked Death's ass though, so uh dunno. He 'beat' Death, but not in anyway relevant to Thanos' way of battle. Oh wait, maybe he'll kill himself inside an Eternity body against Thanos to prove he's the real deal! Brilliant! Or maybe Thanos will allow him to pass after trying to defeat his will to live. Oh boy, when Strange can do those things against Death, how can Thanos stand a chance?!!!
Or maybe you're just ignoring context like usual.

Why exactly would I want to match Strange's feats with stuff Thanos doesn't use? What does that prove? This isn't a feat off.
Anyway, Thanos' mind is too powerful for Strange to effect via fighting with Galactus, resisting Moondragon Mantis and Cosmo at the same time, etc. So why would I need to match that when Thanos doesn't have to go there?
Thanos resisted being transmuted by the nexus of realities when he was turned into different substances, so again, irrelevant. Can't see what Strange would do there. And if you must know, his best and only feat is permanently transmuting a Skrull.
Thanos doesn't manipulate energy though like Strange... why would you even ask something so irrelevant in the first place. I might as well ask what Strange strength feats match Thanos'. Like even if he did, it doesn't mean shit all. Are they going to have an absorb off? Maybe manipulate some floating energies surrounding the area?
Same with Time. Quite frankily, I'm not convinced Strange could do anything to Thanos with control over time, but you know, if you spam "TIME" enough, it must be a legit tactic.

So anyway, ya, Thanos hits him and Strange falls down. Could be instantly, could be awhile. Thanos in a forum battle isn't going to relent like MANY of Strange's fights in comics where he gets to use more exotic powers as well, so there's that as well. Thanos doesn't have to be as well rounded as him to win, for an MMA fan, you'd think you'd understand this simple concept.
And raw power too, the only time Strange is even close to Thanos' raw power is when he's using artifacts, or someone else's power entirely (usually given to him), but I didn't see Strange with help, so... I'm sure you'll jump all over this though, which I'm generally interested to see.

Sure I missed stuff, but it's late and I was just going to bed. Hope to see you back up some of the stuff you said, because at this point in time, you're the last person I trust to tell me about Strange. 👆

Rape stomp by bran

I think bran's post killed pig.

There are so many damn things wrong in that long, boring post it's sad. Blatant lies aside, I'll do my best to dig through that big turd you call a post you dropped on this thread. I asked you to tell me ONE single thing Thanos has, sans physical strength, that is superior to Strange and it took you 800 words to say 'I can't'. I've already shown you dozens of things Strange can do superior to Thanos, you admit he's inferior in every way, but you say it doesn't matter cuz 'Thanos can punch him'. Stupidity. Then, I asked you to name one scenarie where and how Thanos wins. Again it took you hundreds of words to say 'He can punch him'. That's it? That's all you have? Incredible. Then, when I give you a scenario in which Thanos has ZERO defense against, you ignore the dozen or so feats you've been shown in which Strange shows absolute control over time. Instead of admitting Thanos has no defense against Strange's time manip, you disregard his ability to do so. You are the epitome of nutt huggary.

The best part is when you show your ignorance of the the character when you say the only time Strange wasn't at full power was when he temporarily lost the SS title. Blatant lie. He wasn't at full power while the vishanti were mad at him, when he lost his artifacts as well as when he was MOTMA. It's so very hard to argue with a hugger. This all can be ended by giving a scenario where Thanos somehow gets un-time controlled. Somehow survives a blast from the EOA. Somehow doesn't get thrown in a inescapable dimension.Doesn't get his power ripped. Somehow Doesn't get turned into a frog. Somehow breaks all the defenses of the EOA AS WELL AS Strange's Shield so that he can do the only thing he can do......which is to 'Punch him'. See how stupid you have to be to believe Thanos has a chance?

Originally posted by long pig
The best part is when you show your ignorance of the the character when you say the only time Strange wasn't at full power was when he temporarily lost the SS title. Blatant lie. He wasn't at full power while the vishanti were mad at him, when he lost his artifacts as well as when he was MOTMA. It's so very hard to argue with a hugger. This all can be ended by giving a scenario where Thanos somehow gets un-time controlled. Somehow survives a blast from the EOA. Somehow doesn't get thrown in a inescapable dimension.Doesn't get his power ripped. Somehow Doesn't get turned into a frog. Somehow breaks all the defenses of the EOA AS WELL AS Strange's Shield so that he can do the only thing he can do......which is to 'Punch him'. See how stupid you have to be to believe Thanos has a chance?
You wanna be my lawyer.

Originally posted by long pig
The best part is when you show your ignorance of the the character when you say the only time Strange wasn't at full power was when he temporarily lost the SS title. Blatant lie. He wasn't at full power while the vishanti were mad at him, when he lost his artifacts as well as when he was MOTMA. It's so very hard to argue with a hugger. This all can be ended by giving a scenario where Thanos somehow gets un-time controlled. Somehow survives a blast from the EOA. Somehow doesn't get thrown in a inescapable dimension.Doesn't get his power ripped. Somehow Doesn't get turned into a frog. Somehow breaks all the defenses of the EOA AS WELL AS Strange's Shield so that he can do the only thing he can do......which is to 'Punch him'. See how stupid you have to be to believe Thanos has a chance?
Strange himself stated he didn't have a chance against Thanos. You can butcher his showings all you want but bran has exposed your hypocrisy and you've avoided any comparisons at an attempt to abc logic your way through this debate.

Thanos>>>Strange by his own admission.

So there is nothing besides Strength you say LP? What about Durability.. a BIG check there... So that was all I needed to do to win.. Cool. I'll add h2h combat ability.. That's 3 thus far including strength. We can add Tech... That's 4.. We can add intelligence.. and don't start your idiotic stance of Strange using artifacts to gain omniscience.. when that isn't intelligence. You already admitted that strange is inferior to Thanos in this area. So what are we up to now.. 5 things... I would also add TP... if you want to argue this.. Please list Strange feats that top

1. Besting one of the best TP in the marvel universe (Moondragon) WITH the Mind Gem
2. Breaking through Galactus mental defenses and almost getting the better of him in a TP battle
3. Blocking Xavier (another top TP user) with ease with going about his business
4. Blocking 2 of the best TP users in The T.I. while weakened.

Now please name me the TP feats that Strange has that puts him above those. Regardless, I just named 4 or 5 areas that Thanos is strange superior.

Originally posted by long pig
He wasn't at full power while the vishanti were mad at him, when he lost his artifacts as well as when he was MOTMA. ?

Good thing none of those showings happened during those times, huh?

Originally posted by long pig
There are so many damn things wrong in that long, boring post it's sad. Blatant lies aside, I'll do my best to dig through that big turd you call a post you dropped on this thread. [b] I asked you to tell me ONE single thing Thanos has, sans physical strength, that is superior to Strange and it took you 800 words to say 'I can't'. I've already shown you dozens of things Strange can do superior to Thanos, you admit he's inferior in every way, but you say it doesn't matter cuz 'Thanos can punch him'. Stupidity. Then, I asked you to name one scenarie where and how Thanos wins. Again it took you hundreds of words to say 'He can punch him'. That's it? That's all you have? Incredible. Then, when I give you a scenario in which Thanos has ZERO defense against, you ignore the dozen or so feats you've been shown in which Strange shows absolute control over time. Instead of admitting Thanos has no defense against Strange's time manip, you disregard his ability to do so. You are the epitome of nutt huggary. [/B]
First off, you wanted to have a feat off, which is retarded because Thanos doesn't have similar feats to Strange in that regard, like I said. I've already explained why most are irrelevant as well (which you clearly ignored).

Second, I never said Thanos' strategy was to punch him... in fact, I tried to clear that up in your post. If you believe Thanos has no such thing as blasts, then be my guest.
Thanos will hit him = Thanos will punch him?
Brilliant work there.

Third, well, if you want to show me some feats of Strange's time display, or better yet, give me an issue number, that would be swell.

All I've asked off you is to prove anything you say, not to match feats in specific scenarios with Thanos. You clearly cannot do that.

Originally posted by long pig
The best part is when you show your ignorance of the the character when you say the only time Strange wasn't at full power was when he temporarily lost the SS title. Blatant lie. He wasn't at full power while the vishanti were mad at him, when he lost his artifacts as well as when he was MOTMA. It's so very hard to argue with a hugger. This all can be ended by giving a scenario where Thanos somehow gets un-time controlled. Somehow survives a blast from the EOA. Somehow doesn't get thrown in a inescapable dimension.Doesn't get his power ripped. Somehow Doesn't get turned into a frog. Somehow breaks all the defenses of the EOA AS WELL AS Strange's Shield so that he can do the only thing he can do......which is to 'Punch him'. See how stupid you have to be to believe Thanos has a chance?
lol at the possibility of me forgetting when he's been depowered in the 90's equates to me being a Thanos nuthugger. It's almost like I go thread to thread and only argue about Thanos and talk about how much chance he has against Odin, and how he would stomp people he's admitted to having no chance against, and just name random feats while ignoring the heavy context that needs to go with them.
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Oh wait, that's you with Strange. This one's my favorite:
Originally posted by long pig
Taking blasts from LT and inbetweener at the same time without being deaded isn't a feat? Do you have any idea what feat i'm talking about? Go refresh your memory in the Strange respect page then come back. 🙂

BTW, you're off by a decade. You can't say something happened in the wrong ****ing decade and then turn around and call someone a nutthugger when they explain the only major power sapping from that decade.

lol at you naming a bunch of powers of Strange like he'll obviously throw all of them. This isn't 2005 where every power you can find is a go to source here.
Like I asked before, impress me with his time control. All I've heard is "Time", but I haven't seen substance to go along with it. Hell, I named a feat where he used time control, I haven't seen the same from you.

Why wouldn't he survive a blast from it? He's not evil, and he's true to himself. Even if he was, Satan empowered Hellcat managed to do this to it:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Defenders094-16.jpg

Already explained why that wouldn't happen, but now that I think of it, Thanos did turn his clone into a butterfly, so, using the true LP method of debating... show me how Strange would resist being turned into a butterfly! OMG you can't, Thanos wins hugger!!!!

Speaking of shields, you must have forgot about Thanos' when you spouted off all these random powers. But I digress, Strange's shields...
Ya, Thanos breaks them, why not? Because you say so? I'd leave it at that if I felt like being another char, but let's go a step farther shall we. Strange's indestrucible shields. Not only does Strange usually only cast one shield at a time, but if that shield is being pounded on badly, he's been said to not be able to reinforce it. Not only that, but the guy's cardio is terrible. You think hiding behind a shield unable to do nothing but concentrate on his shield is going to do anything to Thanos? Even if Thanos couldn't break it, it would severely tax Strange. No no, that's not enough, let's get to the scans.

Dormammu amped Ghost Rider smashes through his sanctum (as you know, or should know, is heavily shielded) and his go to shield:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/ghostriderv103005.jpg

Umar empowered Clea smashes through his shield:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/MarvelTeam-Up077-13.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/MarvelTeam-Up077-14.jpg

Azrael smashes through his rarely used backed up shield (Shield of Seraphim + Wand of Watoomb):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster4015.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster4016.jpg

A minor mystic with the sword of Kamuu cuts through every shield Strange puts up to defend his Sanctum:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange031-05.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange031-06.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange031-07-1.jpg

Defenses breached, mist meet face:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster3414.jpg

Here Strange admits that he can't back up his shield with continued pounding, and then it breaks:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster3710.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster3711.jpg

Although admittedly, that is contradicted by an earlier issue, although the concept is the same. He doesn't have much time to do anything (not that it would matter, because Thanos would shatter the shield of Seraphim in one shot):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrange029-14.jpg

Strange's shield blown up by two mystics:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster3814.jpg

Strange's shield destroyed by Absorbing Man inside Hulk's mind:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Defenders083-11.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Defenders083-12.jpg

Strange admitting that he doesn't have the best defense against science, and then his shield gets destroyed, and he gets knocked out (Thanos is kind of sciencey, isn't he?):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster5307.jpg

Strange's cardio getting him taxed from one spell:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster5514.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster5515.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeMaster5516.jpg

Uh dunno, his shield wouldn't serve him much purpose. Even if he backed it up, I have no doubt Thanos could smash through it quickly (insert scans of him crushing Moondragon shields, blasting Galactus, smashing Quasar's shield that all the heroes failed to scratch, etc). He might as well just surrender if he wants to hide behind a shield.

Keep in mind there are much much more cases of classic Strange failing. I just don't want to post a respect threads worth of scans just to show you something you likely already know, but just want to deny.

This is the guy who's been coldcocked a few times by normal out cold. A guy who's said that putting out a fire in a building would tax him too much to try. A guy who's been drugged, gassed, suffocated, and has been threatened by ****ing water more than once. This is the guy Thanos has no chance against? Really? Thought it'd be the other way around. Even if you ignore his low end feats, and middle feats, you'd still have to ignore the context of his high feats for him to beat Thanos. That way you'd end up with Strange stalemating IB/LT, holding off LT, beating Death, beating Shuma, stalemating the IG, and beating IB... clearly with his own power and nothing else and he clearly beat them!
*cough sonics*
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Defenders093-16.jpg

For this insanity, I feel the need to post this as well.
Werewold possessed Strange vs Spider-Man (I'd post pure werewolf, but this one actually casts spells):
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/MarvelTeamUp_080p18.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/MarvelTeamUp_080p19.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/MarvelTeamUp_080p21.jpg

Everything I've post was before his books and artifacts were destroyed (which seemingly got ignored anyway), so ya, this is as Classic as you can get. This is Classicest Classic Strange.
That should do it.

Some more things could be expanded upon (stupid 10000 character limit), but ya, Strange doesn't stand a chance IMO.

Haha. you take this silly shit serious. How long did it take you pick through all his insane feats to find a bunch of out of context cis pis feats? If you're sayin one single scan you've shown shows a blood lusted Strange, you're crazy. If you're saying any of your scans show a fully powered, not drained Strange, you're crazy. If you're saying one scan of the people against him didn't have prep, you're crazy. If you're saying a single scan shows a ready for battle strange who's only thought is to beat the person he's fighting, you're crazy. Basically notone thing you've shown can't be used in the vs forum as proof because of the vs forum rules. That's why feats are the only real proof. You have me at a disadvantage seeing i've been using a friggin cell phone this whole time. Look what I say up on his respect thread, or don't. i'm not gonna cry either way. All that work for nothing. 🙁 😂

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Strange doesn't stand a chance IMO.
It just so happens your opinion is absolutely wrong. Time Stop pwnaGE!

Originally posted by long pig
Haha. you take this silly shit serious. How long did it take you pick through all his insane feats to find a bunch of out of context cis pis feats? If you're sayin one single scan you've shown shows a blood lusted Strange, you're crazy. If you're saying any of your scans show a fully powered, not drained Strange, you're crazy. If you're saying one scan of the people against him didn't have prep, you're crazy. If you're saying a single scan shows a ready for battle strange who's only thought is to beat the person he's fighting, you're crazy. Basically notone thing you've shown can't be used in the vs forum as proof because of the vs forum rules. That's why feats are the only real proof. You have me at a disadvantage seeing i've been using a friggin cell phone this whole time. Look what I say up on his respect thread, or don't. i'm not gonna cry either way. All that work for nothing. 🙁 😂
"Don't like it, never happened"

lol at going to the Strange respect thread. If I want to be tricked into thinking Strange one shotted Galactus, and everything else that never happened, I'll go there. Same with me taking it too serious. Don't see me making half the posts in this thread.

Crazy thing is, there were no insane feats... there was a lot of OK feats... a lot of low feats, a lot of those... so many low feats... It was actually startling how many low feats the writers put in his own series. Not even sure you can call them low feats with that amount. When Thanos gets knocked out by a wrench and a baton, then I could see him being put on Strange's level.

That's the problem with you cherry picking super low feats out of context and trying to pass them off as though they are applicable to the forum, when you know full well his powers (especially his shields) center around concentration, focus, will power and general mental health. Just like a green lantern. I've seen Hal's shield broken by a shark on one panel and in the next page take the full blast of a nuke. The scenarios inside the scans you cherry picked did not happen under the same conditions that the versus forums supply. That makes them void. Any negative goofy feat that happened outside of a bloodlusted, no Pis cis Strange, fully focused, no distractions mentally sound and with full concentration just can not apply to the forum. If the enemy sneaks up or has prep just can't be used because It's a waste of time on your part.

Originally posted by long pig
That's the problem with you cherry picking super low feats out of context and trying to pass them off as though they are applicable to the forum, when you know full well his powers (especially his shields) center around concentration, focus, will power and general mental health. Just like a green lantern. I've seen Hal's shield broken by a shark on one panel and in the next page take the full blast of a nuke. The scenarios inside the scans you cherry picked did not happen under the same conditions that the versus forums supply. That makes them void. Any negative goofy feat that happened outside of a bloodlusted, no Pis cis Strange, fully focused, no distractions mentally sound and with full concentration just can not apply to the forum. If the enemy sneaks up or has prep just can't be used because It's a waste of time on your part.
lol, all of those are in context outside of the Science one, but I didn't feel like posting a bunch of shit about Strange being pussy whipped by Clea, when the most important thing is science causing him problems as he said. All you have to do is click the scans to see the context.

And you're one to talk about cherry picking. You just told me to go to a thread where you cut off half the battle of the In-Betweener fight to make Strange look good... and used non canon feats... cut off pages... etc.

I like your "I don't like it, it didn't happen". You really got me. lol at you calling any feat where he fails a waste of time though. And you like to think you combat Thanos 'nuthuggers'? Really? That type of shit makes Quanchi look like a Thanos hater.

BTW, those aren't his super low feats... 😐
The feats I posted make Strange look like a God compared to his super low feats. Even the Spider-Man fight is better than that.

As I suspected, you have nothing. Time to jerk off

Way back when Strange has commented that the forces of science have no effect on him but thats hyperbole but your going so far as to say science is his weakness which is BS considering all the times we've seen his in general>>>science.
So now Thanos' level of tech or prep is greater then someone like Reed Richards? or Doctor Doom? Maybe
Its still useless against him in the forum setting of a fight

And yeah most of the low showings(or high showings considering some of the people hes fighting) about people breaching his shields happen to be from people who are possessed or people Strange doesn't want to hurt which is why we see those battles escalate to that point anyway.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So there is nothing besides Strength you say LP? What about Durability.. a BIG check there... So that was all I needed to do to win.. Cool. I'll add h2h combat ability.. That's 3 thus far including strength. We can add Tech... That's 4.. We can add intelligence.. and don't start your idiotic stance of Strange using artifacts to gain omniscience.. when that isn't intelligence. You already admitted that strange is inferior to Thanos in this area. So what are we up to now.. 5 things... I would also add TP... if you want to argue this.. Please list Strange feats that top

1. Besting one of the best TP in the marvel universe (Moondragon) WITH the Mind Gem
2. Breaking through Galactus mental defenses and almost getting the better of him in a TP battle
3. Blocking Xavier (another top TP user) with ease with going about his business
4. Blocking 2 of the best TP users in The T.I. while weakened.

Now please name me the TP feats that Strange has that puts him above those. Regardless, I just named 4 or 5 areas that Thanos is strange superior.

Still waiting short pig... You said there wasn't area besides strength Thanos is Strange's superior.. Doesn't appear so does it?

Originally posted by SasuOna
Way back when Strange has commented that the forces of science have no effect on him but thats hyperbole but your going so far as to say science is his weakness which is BS considering all the times we've seen his in general>>>science.
So now Thanos' level of tech or prep is greater then someone like Reed Richards? or Doctor Doom? Maybe
Its still useless against him in the forum setting of a fight

And yeah most of the low showings(or high showings considering some of the people hes fighting) about people breaching his shields happen to be from people who are possessed or people Strange doesn't want to hurt which is why we see those battles escalate to that point anyway.

"Way back then" is the only time Long Pig wants to use Strange... well, Strange's low showings anyway, he's OK with Strange having 'high showings' afterwards. Actually Long Pig just wants to ignore every low showing... or average showing really...
So ya, way back then would be relevant if I'm actually following Long Pig logic.

What does prep have to do with anything? Thanos's powers are somewhat science based. And it doesn't have to be his weakness for it to effect him. His control as he said is limited. All I was getting at, is that it would work.

Ya, all 20% of the scans I showed were from people who Strange didn't want to hurt, well 10% if we discount Ghost Rider, the other 80/90%... well, let's just ignore that which seems to be what I'm getting from this thread. All I re-looked through was like a quarter of the specific time Long Pig wanted to find those scans and more as well (that I didn't post because some of the shit was just embarassing). If I felt like it, I'd look through all of them to find way more examples of his shield failing, plus way more. When Strange's shield fails what like a quarter to a half of the time it works, then you know you have a problem.

I just don't see how anyone could be so defensive for Dr Strange when he's put against Thanos, someone who is consistently portrayed at a high level.