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carver9
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The argument H1 is using against Thor can also be used against Superman. He is just to d..I'm not even going to say it, rephrase...he is just to "blind" to see it.


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Originally posted by Silent Master
Stop using handbook numbers.


Prove that handbook numbers say that Thor is between 200-2000 tons.

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Prove that average Classic Thor operates under a million tons.

The proof is a given by simply going through the majority of classic Thor's comics.
Do you know the force what a million tons or more can do? Apparently not.
If you read the majority of classic Thor (I've seen quite a bit myself) you will see Thor in action. The way he hit things, punched things, moved things, matched up with certain individuals, etc suggests that he operated at under a million tons the majority of the time. Very few times in his classic days he operated above a million tons.


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The same argument can be used against Superman.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Funny how there's a couple of feats of Thor explicitly moving at least a million tons.


The problem is that people are not understanding my argument. I never claimed that Thor couldn't operate over a million tons. I said that on average in his classic days he operated under a million tons. This means it was times he went over but for a majority he was under. He was highly inconsistent.

Also, my argument doesn't suggest or imply the strength level Thor would bring in a forum fight since I view characters at their best ability. I'm using Thor's average to gauge why a billion billion beings would be above him. And thus proving that Superman at his best can overcome this billion billion level being physically.


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Originally posted by Silent Master
The same argument can be used against Superman.


Of course it can but whats the relevance?

Thor will operate at his best strength in a forum fight and so will Superman.

My argument doesn't claim otherwise.
My argument is only saying that since Mangog manhandled Thor doesn't mean he manhandled Thor at his highest strength shown. Classic Thor around that time was inconsistent and didn't operate above a million tons very much. Thus it makes since that a billion billion level being is above him in THOSE instances but not when Thor is at his highest strength showing in general.

Finally, I can claim that Namor in water is above Thor in strength simply because he one shotted Hulk. But I won't because I know Hulk was variable too and operated at different strength levels as well.


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Originally posted by h1a8
The problem is that people are not understanding my argument. I never claimed that Thor couldn't operate over a million tons. I said that on average in his classic days he operated under a million tons. This means it was times he went over but for a majority he was under. He was highly inconsistent.

Also, my argument doesn't suggest or imply the strength level Thor would bring in a forum fight since I view characters at their best ability. I'm using Thor's average to gauge why a billion billion beings would be above him. And thus proving that Superman at his best can overcome this billion billion level being physically.


IOW, you're lowballing Thor's strength level so that you can make Mangog's seem less impressive.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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IOW, you're lowballing Thor's strength level so that you can make Mangog's seem less impressive.


Lowballing is suggesting that he carries the strength level of under a million tons to a forum fight. He doesn't. He operates at the highest strength we seen him. Thus I'm not lowballing Thor.


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You're basing Mangog's strength on how he compares to Thor, So, if you're not lowballing Thor...Then Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Even if Mangog just stood there, Supes eventually drops dead from exhaustion.

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This is literally the dumbest argument I've read on this forum. Luckily I'm reading what other people are quoting.

I hope h1 also takes Sentry's power literally which would make him a million times more powerful than Superman's "one sun" powerlevel


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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
This is literally the dumbest argument I've read on this forum.


Until the next post. sad

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Lowballing is suggesting that he carries the strength level of under a million tons to a forum fight. He doesn't. He operates at the highest strength we seen him. Thus I'm not lowballing Thor.


Yes you f**king are you damn troll, you are low balling Thor too make Superman look superior, and you are using the handbooks as proof this basically shows that you dont know What the f**k? you are talking about.



Thor feats alone shown he has moved more than millions tons, world engine is for starts, show us Superman on classic Odin level or STFU troll!

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Yes you f**king are you damn troll, you are low balling Thor too make Superman look superior, and you are using the handbooks as proof this basically shows that you dont know What the f**k? you are talking about.



Thor feats alone shown he has moved more than millions tons, world engine is for starts, show us Superman on classic Odin level or STFU troll!


Thor has more than a million ton force in a forum fight. He gets the highest he has ever shown. Where is the lowballing in that and where is the handbook numbers in that? I don't recall any handbook going over class 100. So why are you bringing handbooks up when they are not allowed as evidence? Trolling much?


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Thor has more than a million ton force in a forum fight. He gets the highest he has ever shown. Where is the lowballing in that and where is the handbook numbers in that? I don't recall any handbook going over class 100. So why are you bringing handbooks up when they are not allowed as evidence? Trolling much?


So, you agree that Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You're basing Mangog's strength on how he compares to Thor, So, if you're not lowballing Thor...Then Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight.
Mangog could beat Superman for a majority if we use average Superman. But unfortunately for the Thor that faced Mangog, he fought Mangog in a comic and not in a forum, otherwise Thor would have done much better against Mangog like Superman will.

Comic fights and forum fights are not the same. Remember that.


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So, you agree that Mangog is more than strong enough to seriously rock Superman in a fight?


In a comic hellz yeah. In a forum, I think quadrillions of tons of strength is sufficient to rock Superman at his best, so yeah.


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In a comic hellz yeah. In a forum, I think quadrillions of tons of strength is sufficient to rock Superman at his best, so yeah.


I'm glad that you're admitting Mangog can rock the hell out Superman in a forum fight.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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I'm glad that you're admitting Mangog can rock the hell out Superman in a forum fight.
Well good. I just believe Superman, ONLY AT HIS BEST, can win at least a few here.


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Well good. I just believe Superman, ONLY AT HIS BEST, can win at least a few here.


So Superman wins 1 maybe 2/10?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Mangog at his best rage stomps Superman ass, last time I check Superman is not on Classic Odin level

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