Thank you for admitting that the power level of his lightning wasn't amped.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
No, more lightning just means he can fire the blast for longer...not that the blast itself is more powerful.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Not it wasn't, Iron-man just got lucky that his suit was able to absorb the energy.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
The lightning is comparable in a sense that it shows him capable of delivering the same (if not stronger) output.
And in the end, we're not arguing how thick the lightning is that he summons, but how strong the lightning is that he outputs (as that is the one that he attacks with).
In the Jotunheim blast, he shows that he is capable of delivering a lightning strike that's just as powerful as the one he used on the leviathans (if we're judging lightning power by thickness that is). THe only difference is that he didn't prolong it.
As for the lightning control/channel, then yes we are in agreement. I do believe the tower enabled him to channel the lightning better, but did not amplify it's charge.
So are we in agreement then that Thor even without a tower can produce lightning just as powerful but not quite as range-spanning?
More electric current = more powerful lightning. Who are you fooling?
Thor was on the building to increase his lightning attack. You can argue to create stronger blasts or longer blasts but it don't matter. Otherwise there would be no point to why he did that shit.
Do you even know how electricity works? More branches of lightning/electricity does not automatically equate to a higher voltage. If I got 3 steel pipes and plugged them in a 110v power outlet, the charge each of these steel pipes would have is 110, possible even lower. If I put 10 steel pipes into that 110v power outlet, you'd still get 110v, maybe even lower. Just because I put more steel pipes doesn't mean I'm amping the voltage.
Same is true with Thor. Whether his lightning has 1 fork or 10 forks or is branching out in multiple directions, it's original charge is the same. The only difference is that he's now able to hit more enemies.
As for him staying in the tower, who said he did it to amp his lightning? Couldn't it be he stayed there simply to get close to the wormhole and give himself some firm footing to launch a powerful attack? You assume too much. FACT is, steel does not amplify electrical power/voltage. That's a scientific fact. End of discussion.
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First off, the portal is at least at cloud level or above. So to expect Thor to shoot lightning from the clouds backwards up the portal would be pretty stupid. Or imagine how retarded looking the scene would have been if lightning from the clouds struck in an arc fashion at the portal. It would be cool but awkward looking at the same time. Thor used the highest building so he can charge up Mjlornir and have an unobscured view while he redirected it at the portal. That building didn't amp him. The lightning hit his hammer and stored in his hammer. The building was charge because lightning was being conduct through Thor who was holding onto the building at the same time. Of course the building is going to be charged but that wasn't why he used it. Mjlornir was a weapon Odin said had no equals (not true i.e. Tesserract). Anyone claim a building was greater than Mjlornir at harnessing lightning needs to hit up Arkham Asylum.
This is the equal, if not better than, the Leviathan strike. He's basically storing lightning in his hammer and channel the strike into the ground and wrecking the entire tundra to pieces. So for those who think Thor needs a building to channel his most powerful attacks, remember this seen.
Notice how the lightning went into his hammer and where his strike came directly from his hammer? The bright object is his hammer not the building. The building was just conducting electricity because it was running through Thor and into the building. This building-storage argument is crap.
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Thor didn't store lightning in that scene. He summoned the lightning from the sky and had it strike the ground by stamping the handle on the ground. You see a bolt of lightning from the sky strike the ground. Not a bolt from his hammer.
All this is just strawmanning. Store lightning this and store lightning that. Point is, Thor can create/summon/discharge (however you want to call it) lightning strong enough to wreck the landscape and strong enough to take on 2 leviathans and about a dozen small chitaui ships. Doesn't matter how he does it, point is he CAN do it.
Thor destroyed an entire tundra with that one attack. He's already demonstrated he could store it in his hammer when he fought Iron Man. As for the building scene, the lightning went into his hammer where he stored most of it similar to the Iron Man fight and then redirected it. It clear shows it in the scene. You reaching at this point trying to claim a building that he used as a vantage point was actually used to amp him. That tundra attack is sufficient to put down a leviathan or Faoro.
The lightning from the sky destroyed the tundra directly. This is different than Thor storing lightning in his hammer and then discharging it.
In the building scene the camera slowly and purposely rolls up and down the building making the viewer carefully see the lightning being stored into it. Thor is then shown to release all of this energy from the building into a powerful and long lasting blast. This clearly means the building + hammer can store more energy than the hammer alone.
Thor doesn't need a vantage point since he was seen flying and discharging multiple bolts destroying enemies.
I think the important point here is, that Thor can create lightning to destroy a tundra. Doesn't matter how he does it, point is he can do it. He can also create lightning to destroy multiple leviathan ships. Again, doesn't matter how he does it, fact is he can do it.
It's like comparing a punch to a kick. Sure they're different and requires different actions to pull off, but if a guy can do both, then he can use it in a fight.
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