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TPM Maul vs ROTS Kenobi
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Rebel95
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TPM Maul vs ROTS Kenobi

Who wins?

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has to be kenobi. We just don't know enough about maul to put him in the class of ROTS Obi-wan, who was, if you remember, the LONE jedi that the jedi council sent after grievous, who was a leader who made a living, KILLING jedi. He had already defeated Plo Kloon in single combat, as well as several other jedi masters. (Shaak Ti?) That the council sent Kenobi to kill grievous by himself speaks volumes of his abilities. His obvious victory over Anakin speaks for itself. Maul simply didn't have the same quality opponents to test himself against. His top opponent, was PROBABLY Qui Gon, and he was superior to Jinn, but we just know more about Obi-Wan's ability.

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ROTS Obiwan wins with a fair amount of.And btw truejedi Quigon was not the Maul's top opponent, it would be Anoon Bondara who prior to his death had lightsaber skills "second to none."

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ROTS Obiwan wins with a fair amount of.And btw truejedi Quigon was not the Maul's top opponent, it would be Anoon Bondara who prior to his death had lightsaber skills "second to none."


thats true... but, they said that qui gonn jinn was rival to yoda himself. wasn't it bondara's padawan who termed bondara thus? padawans all seem to have inflated opinions of their masters it seems. and technically, maul didnt kill bondara, bondara sacrificed himself, though it is true maul dominated their duel.

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thats true... but, they said that qui gonn jinn was rival to yoda himself. wasn't it bondara's padawan who termed bondara thus? padawans all seem to have inflated opinions of their masters it seems. and technically, maul didnt kill bondara, bondara sacrificed himself, though it is true maul dominated their duel.


Nope it was the narrator who said this about him and said a very similar comment in another book about him.

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"Second to none" is vague as hell.

Kenobi wins without using his limbs.


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Kenobi probably won't have an easy time, though.


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"Second to none" is vague as hell.


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The Twi'lek Jedi Master lived in the Force. Always still and complacent as a pool of unknown depth, he was nevertheless one of the best fighters in the order. His skill with a lightsaber was second to none. .


Yea "his skill with a lightsaber was second none" is vague as hell roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Kenobi probably won't have an easy time, though.


it wont be hard either. remember kenobi slaughtered grevious who had twice as many sabers and more dexterity than maul.

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Yea "his skill with a lightsaber was second none" is vague as hell roll eyes (sarcastic)


Yeah. It is.


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it wont be hard either. remember kenobi slaughtered grevious who had twice as many sabers and more dexterity than maul.


No, it would be difficult we saw some type of resurrected Maul nearly kill Vader. Furthemore is the fact that Obiwan's style was the best for facing Grievious and I believe Mace even said that Obiwan had the best chance out of anyone in the order to kill the general. You can't compare the two without at least looking into the details of his victory over Grievious.

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Yeah. It is.

Than please elaborate.

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I won't. I'm not trying to pass anything off as fact. I'm just biased against Maul is all. I think he's overrated. Just ignore my ramblings.


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I say Kenobi kicks ass here.
He killed him the first time(it may have been luck).
He killed Grievous.
He defeated presuit Vader on Mustafar.
And there simply isn't enough known about Maul to say that he could be Kenobi. He has a chance from what I hear, but he's def. going down.


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Originally posted by Elite Hunter
No, it would be difficult we saw some type of resurrected Maul nearly kill Vader. Furthemore is the fact that Obiwan's style was the best for facing Grievious and I believe Mace even said that Obiwan had the best chance out of anyone in the order to kill the general. You can't compare the two without at least looking into the details of his victory over Grievious.


Than please elaborate.


a ressurected maul lol is that even Cannon?
furthermore what more detail do i need?
in 3 seconds of the duel he chopped of two of his 4 hands?
besides if a padawan obi wan killed maul why should a master obi have trouble?
obi wan withstood anakin's onslaught so i think he can comfortably take out maul

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The reply to your 4th question, is that Maul was "surprised" by Obi-Wan and he let his guard down.

Realistically, that goes to show that Maul isn't as good a fighter as people make him out to be, because even if he has good dueling skills, he's an idiot. Thus, his idiocy would result in him losing.

No one takes idiocy into consideration in debates though, otherwise 90% of the bad guys would lose.


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Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk

Realistically, that goes to show that Maul isn't as good a fighter as people make him out to be, because even if he has good dueling skills, he's an idiot. Thus, his idiocy would result in him losing.



O that was Rotfl hillarious, (wipes tears from laughing) i never though of it that way and you put it so bluntly

good stuff

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Didn't half cyborg-Maul lose to Kenobi?


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a ressurected maul lol is that even Cannon?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurrection#cite_note-1



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in 3 seconds of the duel he chopped of two of his 4 hands?


Already addressed that Obiwan's fighting style was the best as Mace said he had the best chance to win and last I checked Obiwan's style was not said to be the best to vs Maul as it was said vs Grievous. Though Grievous was injured beforehand it is neither here nor there for this fight.

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besides if a padawan obi wan killed maul why should a master obi have trouble?

How many times now have I proven you wrong that Maul outdueled TPM Obiwan and was the better fighter? Yet you still go back to this one point.

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obi wan withstood anakin's onslaught so i think he can comfortably take out maul

It is a great feat for sure but you neglect to mention how well they knew each other inside and out. And just because he won the duel at Mustafar doesn't automatically mean that this duel would be easy for him. Which is my whole argument that Maul simply wont die without giving Kenobi a fairly tough battle.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Didn't half cyborg-Maul lose to Kenobi?


I'm pretty sure that was the comic considered not to be canon.

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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurrection#cite_note-1
Already addressed that Obiwan's fighting style was the best as Mace said he had the best chance to win and last I checked Obiwan's style was not said to be the best to vs Maul as it was said vs Grievous. Though Grievous was injured beforehand it is neither here nor there for this fight.


How many times now have I proven you wrong that Maul outdueled TPM Obiwan and was the better fighter? Yet you still go back to this one point.


It is a great feat for sure but you neglect to mention how well they knew each other inside and out. And just because he won the duel at Mustafar doesn't automatically mean that this duel would be easy for him. Which is my whole argument that Maul simply wont die without giving Kenobi a fairly tough battle.



1) grevious knows all forms including juyo so if obi wan is best against grevious, then that means he can beat grevious even when he is using juyo, and given the computer chip i am 100% certain that grevious can use juyo better than maul.so if obi could easily disarm grievous (pun intended) then he will have an even easier time with maul
but guess what?
maul has a dexterity disadvantage of dual wielding which will hurt him against obi's reflexes.

2)maul is an idiot and either way he is still dead as a doornail get over it

3)what he did to grevous he will do to maul, easily

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