Like Faunus said, narration is canon, but it is Bane's own thoughts anyways. Considering Bane spent hours studying the Sith that came before him, he likely knows his shit.
Malak defeated Revan on the Leviathan even when the odds were not in his favor. That victory deserves some serious recognition.
Also! Malak was able to control the entire Star Forge with great efficiency and used it at his whim, which is a feat that very few Sith Lords have accomplished. Remember that many Sith were not powerful enough to control the Star Forge. Many tried and failed.
Narration from The Dark Side Sourcebook:
An imposing figure with ghostly pale features, prominent Sith tattoos, a gleaming red lightsaber, and devastating Dark Side power, Malak struck terror into the hearts of his former allies.
And according to Yuthura Ban - Malak was the strongest in the entire Sith Order during his reign as the Dark Lord and even Darth Sion was serving him and greatly admired him. Such a person could not be a joke.
Some people really don't pay enough attention to the story of the KOTOR.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on May 11th, 2008 at 08:47 AM
If Bandon was weak, than why Malak chose him for becoming his apprentice among thousands of other prospects?
From the official starwars profile of Darth Bandon:
=> There he embraced the dark side and the way of the Sith with every fiber of his being. His great strength in the Force, his natural cruelty and his absolute ruthlessness in his quest for power soon set him apart from his fellow students, and drew the calculating eye of Lord Malak himself.
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=> Darth Bandon proved himself to be an excellent choice. Many Jedi fell beneath the blade of his lightsaber.
Hence! Bandon was not a weakling, but actually a powerful Sith Lord and a capable warrior with great ambitions, but unfortunately for him, he had to face Revan in his path.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on May 11th, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Actually, malak stunned revan/smacked him pretty hard, and retreated with the girl, instead of killing revan instantly, like he should have done had he defeated him.
who else exactly tried to controll the star forge? anyone impressive? didn't think so.
woop de doo, hes got a scary outfit and devastating power, however not once do you see him utilize this power to do something amaizing.
of course, malak was the sith lord, making him the strongest in the order, or else he would have been killed and replaced. i am not sayint that malak was weak during his rein, but compared with other sith with more unique and powerful abilities like bane, nihilus, sion, and sideous, he comes slightly below par.
Where and when did darth sion serve him?
i see nothing from the games in your arguement. I see only Dark Side source book.
yea, and wth besides that did he do, aside from stand out from a bunch of apprentices to an above average sith lord enough to get picked, and then kill a few jedi, and then die? I can say "many jedi fell beneat the blade of suchandsuch's lightsaber (excepting fett)" about 10 star wars characters off the top of my head.
Anakin
Sideous
aura sing
General grevious
Jango fett
count dooku
assajj ventress
Exar Kun
Ulic quel droma
Darth Vader
Revan
The reason that Revan got out alive was due to intervention of Bastilla. She really did save his life on the Leviathan.
Revan tried but limited his contact, though he still managed to control it.
Apart from him, many sith tried but they all failed. This information was revealed in KOTOR 2. And it was even hinted in KOTOR 1, that Star Forge could not be controlled by ordinary beings because it was too powerful, dangerous and complex.
You see things from game-play point out of view, which is not good. The engine used in KOTOR game is heavily outdated, in which even Light Sabers don't do much damage like they should.
So try to focus on the information provided in the game by characters that we interact with and also on the information revealed in the game through other means.
Also! Malak did utilized his personal power to control the Star Forge. That super-weapon did not served him automatically.
Darth Sion actually served Malak and he greatly admired him as well. Nihilus and Traya came later in the scene and those two weren't termed "nearly unstoppable." By the end of KOTOR, Malak possessed more raw power and knowledge of the force than either of these Sith Lords, apart from maybe Traya.
Darth Sion was being trained in the ways of the dark side in the Korriban academy during the events of KOTOR 1. Much about his past is still shrouded in mystery.
And he said this about Malak: "Malak had strength, and embraced it, saw his opportunity and took it."
Most of the comments I have mentioned here are based on information and narrations provided in the KOTOR games.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on May 11th, 2008 at 09:36 AM
You are taking things out of context here and that list is entirely irrelevant in this case.
The point is that Bandon did killed many Jedi. And since the word "Lightsaber" has been used in the narration, it indicates that in most of his duels, his skills with the Lightsaber were put to test and he prevailed.
So what does this information tells you? It tells us that Bandon was indeed a capable warrior and not a weakling as you implied.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on May 11th, 2008 at 09:38 AM
Revan was the only other sith to try and control. He and Malak were the first sith to discover it. Revan being the DLOTS naturally meant it was his control then Malak became DLOTS so it became his. You are thinking of the noncanon darkside choice for kotor 2 where the backstory is that Revan turned back to the darkside won the battle of the star forge and ruled the empire for a time then left and people tried to control it after he left but none could so it shut off and I believe it fell into the star. But the point is that it did not happen.
And there is no proof that he was the powerful walking corpse that he was in kotor 2 so you really don't have point here considering if he was training at the korriban academy then I would wager that he isn't on Bandon's level which means that he is nothing more than around a slightly above average dark jedi or below that. I also bet that he wasn't called darth sion yet either.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on May 11th, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Dude! The point is that the developers did intended to show that how difficult it was to control the Star Forge. Only very powerful Sith Lords held any chance.
And we are not talking about the ownership of the Star Forge here. We are talking about what kind of individual would be able to control it.
I am not talking about Darth Sion's power. However, the fact remains that he was actually one of the 3 big antagonists in the KOTOR 2, which means that he was not a pushover either and was a big threat.
However, he was also among the thousands of "prospects" during the time of KOTOR 1, from which only one individual - Bandon was chosen for some good enough reasons.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on May 11th, 2008 at 05:41 PM
FER TEA!!
May 9th, 2008 05:55 AM
