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Does he make it?
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He falls to the first team 1 14.29%
He is bested by Depa 0 0%
He dies at team 3 0 0%
He is destroyed by Kenobi 0 0%
Yoda defeats sidious 2 28.57%
He is defeated by Master Windu 0 0%
He is destroyed by Obi1, Ani, and the clones 2 28.57%
He defeats all his enemies 2 28.57%
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Darth Sidious runs the Gauntlet
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Rebel95
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Darth Sidious runs the Gauntlet

1. Saesee Tinn and Ki-Adi Mundi
2. Depa Billaba
3. Cin Drallig, Kit Fisto and Plo Koon
4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
5. Yoda
6. Mace Windu
7. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker and 20 clone commandos

Does Sidious make it through these opponents, or where does he fall?

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Master Crimzon
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Does he get rest?

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Yes. Enough to regain full strength.

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Master Crimzon
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If so, he may or may not stop at Yoda. They are equals, and therefore, the fight can go either way. If Sidious wins, however, he has, IMO, a slight edge over Mace (I explained why in Yoda and Mace vs. Bane and Sidious), and he promptly dies against Obi-Wan and Anakin and the Clone Commandos.

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What Sidious? OT Sidious? PT Sidious? DE Sidious?

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PT sidious.

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PT sidious.


He could die at level five or six. Grandmaster Yoda has already demonstrated swordsmanship and mastery of the Force in total parity with the Galactic Emperor's; Mace Windu's mastery of Vaapad and the shatterpoint charism afford him an undeniable advantage over the Dark Lord in lightsaber combat, though he is considerably inferior in Force strength.

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I can see Darth Sidious defeating both Yoda and Mace Windu with much difficulty. But when he comes to the final team, he can't win.

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Will Mace necessarily defeat him in a lightsaber duel, though? Sidious had displayed considerably superior speed in comparison to Mace Windu who is not immersed in Vaapad, so to speak (the novel confirms that he relied on it to gain a speed matching Sidious' own), and dominated him during most of the duel, clearly giving Mace a very hard time (look at Mace's facial expressions when they duel on the ledge). In addition, the novel says that Sidious was forced to drop his speed in order to get a force-enhanced grip on the ledge, something he will not necessarily have to do in a rematch. And, finally, Mace certainly needs some time to get 'immersed in Vaapad', and he can barely keep up with Sidious before he goes into that state. Sidious won't have the trouble of being forced to kill several other Jedi before Mace; Mace will have less time to prepare himself and match Sidious.

With all of these factors, do you think that Mace will win every time in a saber duel against the Emperor? I'm not too sure.

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No, Mace's power is not on par with Lord Sidious's. Mace would die due to the fact that they were close to equal with lightsabers, but Mace's force power is not even in comparison with the Dark Lord's. Sidious will harass Mace with lightning until the time is right to strike him down.

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I was actually replying to Gideon, but I suppose your assertion is fairly reasonable.

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Mace and Sidious werent close to equal with lightsabers. Windu mopped the floor with him.


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Mace and Sidious werent close to equal with lightsabers. Windu mopped the floor with him.


Yes, which is why three of his teammates were killed and he was pushed back into the central office.

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No, Obsidian, and here's to prove it:

"Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue.

Impasse."

As you see, in their fight, this clearly displays that in pure saber-to-saber, Mace and Sidious were virtually equal- and this is factoring Windu's Vaapad, mind you, that allowed him to copy Sidious' superior speed and ferocity.

Windu didn't mop the floor with him. He had extreme difficulty (depicted by his facial expressions), and only barely won, thanks to his Shatterpoint ability.

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Fair enough. I still think Windu kicks serious butt evil face


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That was easy. confused

So, will Mace defeat Sidious in a saber duel?

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That was easy. confused

So, will Mace defeat Sidious in a saber duel?


I don't see why not. The same properties and scenarios that allowed him to overcome the Emperor in the first place will be the same.

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That was easy. confused

So, will Mace defeat Sidious in a saber duel?


What can I say? If good enough proof/argument is providen, I have nothing against being wrong.

He did so before. Dont see why he couldnt do so again.


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But this isn't just a saber duel. It is all out. And in the force category, sidious is far superior to Mace.

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Will Mace necessarily defeat him in a lightsaber duel, though? Sidious had displayed considerably superior speed in comparison to Mace Windu who is not immersed in Vaapad, so to speak (the novel confirms that he relied on it to gain a speed matching Sidious' own), and dominated him during most of the duel, clearly giving Mace a very hard time (look at Mace's facial expressions when they duel on the ledge). In addition, the novel says that Sidious was forced to drop his speed in order to get a force-enhanced grip on the ledge, something he will not necessarily have to do in a rematch. And, finally, Mace certainly needs some time to get 'immersed in Vaapad', and he can barely keep up with Sidious before he goes into that state. Sidious won't have the trouble of being forced to kill several other Jedi before Mace; Mace will have less time to prepare himself and match Sidious.


These factors sort of make me doubt that Windu is a hundred percent guaranteed of victory.

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