Round 2
Winner of Dooku vs SF Malak faces winner of Kreia vs Kun
Winner of Maul vs Zannah faces winner of Ulic vs Vader
Winner of Caedus vs Lumiya faces winner of ROTS Bane vs Darth Revan
Winner of ROTS Sidious vs DE Luke faces Winner of Nadd vs Sadow
a.) Darth Malak, Darth Traya, and Exar Kun in a curbstomp.
b.) I'm not familiar with the extent of Zannah's powers, though it seems evident that Maul isn't nearly as powerful, can he resist her energies?
c.) Caedus, likely. While he hasn't exhibited extremely potent Force mastery, to my knowledge, he has been stated to have a great spectrum of Force techniques at his disposal. I'm not sure to what degree, though, he'd defeat someone of Lumiya's caliber.
d.) Skywalker, Nadd, and Sadow in a battle in relative ease.
It is similar to the setup that I made in the thread saber combat tournament.
Round 2
Winner of Dooku vs SF Malak faces winner of Kreia vs Kun
Winner of Maul vs Zannah faces winner of Ulic vs Vader
Winner of Caedus vs Lumiya faces winner of ROTS Bane vs Darth Revan
Winner of ROTS Sidious vs DE Luke faces Winner of Nadd vs Sadow
Round Uno
1.Dooku vs SF empowered Malak
2.Kreia vs Kun
3.Maul vs Zannah
4.Ulic vs Vader
5.Darth Caedus vs Lumiya
6.Bane vs Darth Revan
7.ROTS Sidious vs DE Luke
8.Nadd vs Sadow
Round Deuce(This were the debates start){Here's Mine}
1.SF Malak because the Count doesn't have NEAR as much endurance as Malak in normal circumstances, and SF will increase Malak's abilities just enough to beat him. However, Dooku will manage to make him expend all of his Jedi-in-stasis so that advantage will (unless he starts doing what Bastila did) disappear for this round.
Exar Kun can most likely resist her instakill, so he could win by power, however, if it comes down to knowledge Kreia holds an important edge.
2.Zannah... not even going to explain this.
If Vader is allowed to pummel him with random debris and materials, he takes it by a large margin.(I heard he force crushed a tank somewhere, can anybody give me the quote.)
3.No ****ing clue... Revan certainly has more mass killings or atleast ore impressive ones(as quoted by The One) Caedus has the greatest variety. Lumiya has been shown using her's in one on one combat. Bane is quite formidable in his own right.
4.DE Luke based on raw power and emerald lightning.
Sadow... Master>Apprentice
Round Tres
Exar Kun
Vader
Unknown
DE Luke
Free For All Breakdown
DE Luke poses the most obvious threat and the latter three concentrate on him first, Vader is taken out in the process, Kun curbstomps(he'll drain his enemies life force right before they die to sustain himself and heal his injuries) whoever's left.
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You all know this is DE Luke, right? As in... not uber force god Luke? Plus, he hadn't displayed Emerald Lightning by that point. I'm personally unsure if he can beat Palpatine.
Master Crimzon, my setup which you and Enaylus had no problem understanding in a previous thread that I made seems to be confussing.
I would like to hear your opinion on who would win.
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Re: Sith Force Tournament
First, I'm going to assume that after each fight, they are allowed to rest until the next round.
Round 1:
Malak & Kun.
Zannah & Vader.
Caedus & Bane (although I almost went with Revan).
Luke & Sadow
Round 2:
Kun.
Zannah.
Bane.
Sadow.
Round 3:
Kun wins.
I don't think I need to do too much explaining with this. Let me handle the most controversial fights:
Exar over Malak because Kun can pretty much disintegrate Malak with his amulets, not to mention he has displayed much more versatility. I picked Zannah over Vader due to her Force Horror ability (or whatever it is). Vader is almost always an emotional wreck. I think it would be extremely effective against someone like him. Bane over Caedus because Bane's lightning has really shown no upper limit to the damage it can do (the whole, rage fueling the Dark Side and Dark Side fueling the rage loop that Zannah points out). Sadow over Luke because the only relative Force feat Luke displays in DE is being able to tank an AT-AT laser with his Force Shielding. Sadow's amulet, I believe, is stronger. Not only that, but his knowledge base is far more vast. I'm positive he'd be able to do very nasty things to Luke.
Round three? Bane presumably knows how to counter Zannah's fear attack. Kun and Sadow's amulets are the same, so they cancel - however, Kun has shown a higher variety of Force abilities.
The Caedus Fanboy in me wants to disagree, but I can't see him blocking Bane's lightning with any sort of consistency. 3/10 times, maybe. He has Skywalker blood to power his defenses, and an incredibly diverse arsenal of force powers, as shown by his use of the 'blood trace' and various mindwipes/illusions he has preformed. IF, IF he can block Bane's lightning, then his own significantly powerful lightning, or his mastery over telekinesis might make up for the lack of offensive Force powers (compared to Bane).
If Caedus gets past Bane, and the rest of your fights turn out the same, he will face:
Kun.
Zannah.
Sadow.
Caedus is compared to Vader, who was incredibly strong. I really don't see Zannah posing any threat.
I don't know much about Sadow, so I won't argue for or against him, but you say that he has amulets similar to Kun, with Sadow's being the weaker of the two. Kun's amulets gain in power throughout the duel, and I don't see Caedus tanking them for very long. With speed, luck, and a bit of cunning, he might get the others to team up on Kun to take out the biggest threat. Kun is his biggest competition.
I say Caedus takes it 5/10 times, but he has trouble (or is incapable) of surmounting Bane.
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Re: Re: Sith Force Tournament
Now, your telling me that zannah's sith spell that worked on non force sensitives is going to work on vader, which by your own admission, TK attacks that might even surpass that of sidious and the fact that he is nearly as powerful as sidious?
Vader doesn't get "emotionally wrecked" during fights, or he would have gotten killed several times.
Besides if he DID get "emo" during a fight, his force sensitive opponents would sense that and actually take advantage of the situation.
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I agree.
Vade only seems to get emotional when fighting people who remind him of his past, like Luke. He has no idea who Zannah is, and even if he did the character's personalities don't come into play in vs. fights.
If Zannah's Horror ability comes into play, then Revan's similar but more powerful(Insanity, and yes gameplay this gameplay that blah blah just hear me out) version should be able to dominate most of the people here.
I said most, not all,most.
Even if he didn't know in KOTOR he would've definitely known and probably used it(Kavar stunned a room full of soldiers, which was situation that was like Order 66, except he survived it) several times.
Random question, exactly how much did the PT Jedi know about the force? It seems that only the absolutely most powerful of them knew any remarkable force powers. While Bandon had the ability to at the very least put three Jedi(or soldiers or whatever) in a similar spell with a wave of his hand. The Jedi of the PT era just got slaughtered and couldn't defend themselves with the force. Kavar got pretty(Don't bring in the surprise deal, Mundi realized what was happening and couldn't do anything about it) much in the same situation and handled it quite easily.
Malak uses a Stasis Field and effortlessly turns a three-on-one to a one-on-one(Yes, I know that neither Bastila nor Carth are upper-tier but niether are those that Zannah targets) and could've sliced Revan up when he force whirlwinded him.
So if you count Zannah's Horror ability, you have to count Revan's ability to do the same but to a greater effect.
Plz don't compare Zannah to Revan to try to disprove what I have said.
Oh and the "He only showed this in-game, there's no PROOF that he ever did outside it" he was one of the most powerful Sith of that Era, if not THE most powerful, a ability that could easily be learned before he even knew who he was and still thought he was who the council programed him to be. So I don't see any problem for him to use this in battle.
Oh, and where did Vader Crush that tank, I know it happened, but I can't remember when.
Sep 17th, 2008 06:49 PM
