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Sith'ari - Who do you think it is?
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And yes, I realize that those feats totally contradict the games. But, hey. Bungie says that it's because of game mechanics...


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Meh, Private Church could take the Chief. stick out tongue

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Who would in turn get destroyed by Caboose.

But... Caboose is a godly entity. So eh.


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Who would in turn get destroyed by Caboose.

Caboose would never "intentionally" kill Church.

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But... Caboose is a godly entity. So eh

Hell yea, Caboose is after all who Master Chief is based on. stick out tongue

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Mara would whoop MC. Telekinesis FTW.


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Chuck Norris would whoop Mara...

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Mara would whoop MC. Telekinesis FTW.
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LulZ, because she does that every force sensitive that attacks her.

Oh wait. Oh shi-

No. MC's armor >>> the concussive force of hitting the eath at terminal velocity from thousands of miles up.

Thus, MC's armor >>> the concussive force of any pure force attack any force user can do.

He'd speed blitz her though so it wouldn't matter.


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Thus, MC's armor >>> the concussive force of any pure force attack any force user can do.


Not "I attained the inertia of a black hole" Luke or "I moved a moon" Darth Bane.

The upper tiers of Force usage are absolutely ridiculous.

EDIT: LULZ at the thought of a Jedi getting speed blitzed.


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That's not necessarily what I was referring to.

edit- Though I wonder, Luke and Bane have these abilities... so why is any fight tough for them? If you can force push someone with enough power to nudge a moon, why not just obliterate every enemy?


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that thought has puzzled me for a long time... erm

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Personally, I think the idea of the Sith'ari is a dumb thing that they introduced into the Star Wars mythos...


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I don't...

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LulZ, because she does that every force sensitive that attacks her.

Oh wait. Oh shi-

No. MC's armor >>> the concussive force of hitting the eath at terminal velocity from thousands of miles up.

Thus, MC's armor >>> the concussive force of any pure force attack any force user can do.

He'd speed blitz her though so it wouldn't matter



I meant Mara could easily lift him up into the air and simply chuck her saber at him. Mc has no way of blocking it and would lose his head. Heck If any jedi actually used their power's intelligently i'd say that she could just F-crush his heart, but sadly that isn't the case.
And I lol at the idea of a speed blitz too.


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MC gets owned by any jedi above the rank of padawan.

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At the risk of pissing people off, I agree.


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I meant Mara could easily lift him up into the air and simply chuck her saber at him. Mc has no way of blocking it and would lose his head. Heck If any jedi actually used their power's intelligently i'd say that she could just F-crush his heart, but sadly that isn't the case.
And I lol at the idea of a speed blitz too.


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LulZ, because she does that to every non-force sensitive that attacks her.

Oh wait. Oh shi-


And again, if she does that he can like.. you know, shoot her. Force grip his weapons? That'd be funny. She's not strong enough in the force to take a weapon that's being gripped by thousands of pounds of force. She lifts him he shoots her in the face.

And he's at least twice as fast she is, and one punch will kill her. The fact that Clones and people like Boba Fett and Greivous have stood up to and defeated jedi throws your whole point out the window.

Also, you''d have to prove that Mara is strong enough in the force to lift and hold a thousand pounds, more then a thousand pounds since the weigtht of MJOLNIR armor can be adjusted via a single thought by the user so that a SPARTAN doesn't sink in water if he/she doesn't want to. Mara's never displayed such strength in the force. Ever.

Padawan level. LolZ. If all of the clone troopers in RotS had been outfitted in MJOLNIR armor and had undergone the proper genetic epxerimentation, they would have sacked the jedi temple with half the casualties, at least. Even if Mace and Yoda had been there... that result wouldn't have changed.


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LulZ, because she does that to every non-force sensitive that attacks her.

Oh wait. Oh shi-


Two words- PIS and conservation. To conserve force energy in a real life situation is a big thing, if you exaust yourself you're dead if there's more then one. Plus these things take time and these tactics are rather extreme for an ordinary NFS. The Master Chief is a foe to warrent this tactic. Although all things considered, she could probably just run up to him and slice him in half. There's nothing much he can do to stop her.

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And again, if she does that he can like.. you know, shoot her. Force grip his weapons? That'd be funny. She's not strong enough in the force to take a weapon that's being gripped by thousands of pounds of force. She lifts him he shoots her in the face.


Or she could like... point his arm away. And even if that wouldn't work (Super-strength I'm betting) she could just side step and then throw. If she's too close for that then she could jsut have sliced him at the start. Too far for that and I don't see why she couldn't dodge. She does have precog remember.

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And he's at least twice as fast she is,


Prove please.

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and one punch will kill her.


Even if he is faster ( I doubt it will be 'twice as fast) he still wouldn't be able to touch her. Precog remember.

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The fact that Clones


Surprise and sheer weight of numbers.

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and people like Boba Fett


That I know of Fetts only ever fought one jedi directly and that's Jaina. Karen Traviss was writing. It wasn't a fair fight.

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and Greivous


Greivous is special.

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Also, you''d have to prove that Mara is strong enough in the force to lift and hold a thousand pounds,


I don't know about a thousand pounds but in Alliegance she lifts a 'thick and heavily armoured' section of wall about the size of a crouched human for a good minute. A rough estimate would put this section of wall betwen 200-400 pounds.

She then has 40 years of growth and practice.


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Two words- PIS and conservation. To conserve force energy in a real life situation is a big thing, if you exaust yourself you're dead if there's more then one. Plus these things take time and these tactics are rather extreme for an ordinary NFS. The Master Chief is a foe to warrent this tactic. Although all things considered, she could probably just run up to him and slice him in half. There's nothing much he can do to stop her.


lol. Unless she moves faster than bullets, nah.



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Or she could like... point his arm away. And even if that wouldn't work (Super-strength I'm betting) she could just side step and then throw. If she's too close for that then she could jsut have sliced him at the start. Too far for that and I don't see why she couldn't dodge. She does have precog remember.


Side-step bullets? When has she ever done that? If she was that fast she wouldn't need to use her lightsaber to fight one-on-one opponens. Feats please.

And the Chief's an expert marksmen with faster then bullet reflexes and enough strength to lift 122 THOUSAND pounds of steel. She'd be too busy concentrating on simply keeping him still to side-step bullets AND keep him from moving AND throw her lightsaber with enough force to do any actual damage, considering lightsabers have no kinetic weight and thus one strike would only be enough to deactivate the shield not pierce him, unless there was driving force behind it. Again, provide feats that would support such amazing force mastery.

One stab won't kill the Chief anyway. MJOLNIR armor contains biofoam, which plugs up holes and wounds and provides special nutrients to keep the body alive. A person with biofoam
injected in their bodies can fight normally even when severely damaged. MJOLNIR injects biofoam directly into wherever the wound is. A marine in the The Flood had his stomach exploded by needler rounds and he lived because of biofoam... So, assuming that everything you say is correct, she tosses her saber at the Chief and it goes right through him... then what? She's defenseless and he's stll ready to go. erm

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Prove please.


Bullets move in slow motion to John, and he ran a kilometer in 19 seconds with a broken ankle, this is before he gained the Mark VI which increases a SPARTAN's speed and mobility. What's Mara's best speed feat?

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Even if he is faster ( I doubt it will be 'twice as fast) he still wouldn't be able to touch her. Precog remember.


And precog has failed to save Jedi from fighting opponents who were just as fast or actually slower.


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Surprise and sheer weight of numbers.


I'm not talking about Order 66 specifically. And John is many, many times faster, stronger, and more skilled than any clone. He's worth many of them.


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That I know of Fetts only ever fought one jedi directly and that's Jaina. Karen Traviss was writing. It wasn't a fair fight.


Jango killed one of Doku's apprentices by himself and killed multiple jedi knights by himself in clsoe quarters combat. He was unarmed. Boba fought Vader, though I dunno if that's canon.


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Greivous is special.


Nice argument. roll eyes (sarcastic)

As I proved the page before, John's superior to the General in almost every aspect.


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I don't know about a thousand pounds but in Alliegance she lifts a 'thick and heavily armoured' section of wall about the size of a crouched human for a good minute. A rough estimate would put this section of wall betwen 200-400 pounds.

She then has 40 years of growth and practice. [/B]


First off, you know that random assumptions/guesses don't fly in a debate. And that's all this is. Second off, I disagree. A "heavily armored" object only about two feet in height would weigh about a hundered to a hundred and fifty pounds unless it was made out of the most super-esque dense steel ever, which you'd have to prove. Third, force growth is not linear like that, and it depends on the person's strength in the force naturally. Feats please.


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Holy Crap! Blax is good at this!


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Where do you think Gideon learned his talents? I'm just old, is all.


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