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Shaak Ti and Obi-Wan vs. Darth Tyranus
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Shaak Ti and Obi-Wan vs. Darth Tyranus

Combatants: Shaak Ti and Obi-Wan Kenobi vs. Darth Tyranus, all fighters at their prime.

Setting: The snowy mountain whereupon Atris' Jedi Academy was located, Telos (note: the landscape is large, but their are cliffs which would result in instakill if someone was tossed over).

Rules: N/A.


As mentioned, it would be possible to toss someone off the cliff a la Mortal Kombat. I want to say Shaak Ti and Obi-Wan would win more often than not, but I'd like to see what the rest of you think.


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Shaak Ti seemed to be reasonably powerful in the Force- she managed to create a nexus out of an entire planet. Would anything she's done compare to Dooku's control of the Force? If she can shield herself and Kenobi then their bladework will be roughly equal. (She scored hits on Marek and Kenobi is... well, he is what he is.)

It comes down to Dooku's ability to use the Force. Again. sad


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I don't think these two can surpass Dooku. He'd be enjoying that appletini before you could say "Rancor!"


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Tyranus handily I believe.

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anakin as of the clone wars movie was able to hold his own against dooku in the force wasnt he? i think that shaak ti with her force prowess as of TFU combined with RotS Obi-Wan can overwhelm Dooku with a combined force attack.

another scenario i see is the stronger force user of the two engaging dooku in a force battle while the weaker takes him out with a lightsaber attack. for example force driven snow into the face then a lightsaber slash from behind. dooku created a small whirlwind out of sand and used it to confuse anakin. i can forsee one of the duo doing likewise here.


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Dooku was doing okay vs "The Duo" until Anakin went Super Saiyan.

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the duo consisted of anakin and his youngling level padawan...


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Before you go on with your post's, think. Obi-one= never defeated dooku. So that means it goes to his partner. Shaak-ti vs Anakin, who wins. If shaak ti wins, then yes, dooku will be defeated, if anikan wins, no he would take em down


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Before you go on with your post's, think. Obi-one= never defeated dooku. So that means it goes to his partner. Shaak-ti vs Anakin, who wins. If shaak ti wins, then yes, dooku will be defeated, if anikan wins, no he would take em down
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i dont understand a word your saying


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Originally posted by WO Polaski
the duo consisted of anakin and his youngling level padawan...
I'm referring to "The Duo" which consisted of Anakin and Kenobi in ROTS onboard the Invisible Hand.

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Obi-Wan was easily defeated by Dooku twice. Shaak Ti isn't even as powerful as Kenobi meaning she should be even easier for the Count.

Dooku wins this.

Edit: Forgot about the force unleahed... Still I would assume Dooku wins although this time it will be very difficult.

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Just because he maybe then either individually doesnt mean he can beat them together.

but still no one has bothered to address my argument. again. ill just quote it.

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anakin as of the clone wars movie was able to hold his own against dooku in the force wasnt he? i think that shaak ti with her force prowess as of TFU combined with RotS Obi-Wan can overwhelm Dooku with a combined force attack.

another scenario i see is the stronger force user of the two engaging dooku in a force battle while the weaker takes him out with a lightsaber attack. for example force driven snow into the face then a lightsaber slash from behind. dooku created a small whirlwind out of sand and used it to confuse anakin. i can forsee one of the duo doing likewise here.


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What? Why not? Anakin was more than a match for Dooku and Dooku disarmed Kenobi effortlessly whilst fighting Skywalker. I honestly doubt Kenobi would dispatch Dooku simply because Shaak Ti is there. Can you offer any other attributes to their hypothetical victory besides her standing around with Kenobi looking like a rainbow?


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shaak ti as of TFU displayed more force prowess then anyone in this thread and anakin. dooku tooled him once in the heat of a duel before kenobi could even react. he cant do it here because hell be too busy fending off the force powerhouse that is shaak ti something that will require all of his effort and concentration. he wont have the time to really finish off kenobi with the force. he cant defeat either easily in lightsabers. theyre both masters in soresu meaning it will be a drawn out duel with either fighter. so heres the basic lay-out.

shaak ti is > dooku who is > kenobi in the force.

so the most likely scenario is that dooku either attempts to kill kenobi fast and gets killed in the process or he tries to fend off shaak ti and gets killed by kenobi via lightsaber.

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dooku >kenobi > shaak ti in lightsabers.

so dooku applies the pressure to either fighter but cant overcome eithers soresu skills fast enough to avoid having to give ground to the other fighter. he eventually is killed with the force anyway.

so i honestly dont see dooku winning. hes not superior enough to either to capitalize on either fighters weakness even if obi-wan is the weak link.


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shaak ti as of TFU displayed more force prowess then anyone in this thread and anakin.
How?

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shes shown much more impressive feats then any of the other three.


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More than Dooku? Maybe Dooku in the movies...


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Originally posted by Eminence
How?
3 words: The Force Unleashed. Overexaggerated power levels. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Can someone actually tell me what she's done? I realize she tamed Felucia's Force aura, but that was over the course of fifteen years. What has she done that would pertain to combat, and what has she done that would justify the claims that she is a more capable Force user than Count Dooku?
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WO Polaski
shaak ti as of TFU displayed more force prowess then anyone in this thread and anakin.
This is probably false.

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WO Polaski
dooku tooled him once in the heat of a duel before kenobi could even react.
He did it twice "in the heat of a duel" while fending off Anakin Skywalker. Keep in mind that that particular duo's teamwork was legendary by that point; they knew each other inside out, a critical quality that the partnership of Kenobi and Shaak Ti lacks.

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he cant do it here because hell be too busy fending off the force powerhouse that is shaak ti something that will require all of his effort and concentration.
See above.

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WO Polaski
he wont have the time to really finish off kenobi with the force.
It took a "flick" of his wrist to put Kenobi on his ass. Shaak Ti isn't as aggressive or powerful a swordsman as Anakin -- or, as far as I know, Sora Bulq, whom Dooku casually electrocuted into unconsciousness with one hand while toying with Master Tholme with the other -- and she won't be able to cover Obi-Wan's back as well, so there's no reason he couldn't replicate the feat.

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he cant defeat either easily in lightsabers. theyre both masters in soresu meaning it will be a drawn out duel with either fighter.
Wikipedia says Shaak Ti uses Makashi and Ataru, both of which Dooku is intimately familiar with.

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so the most likely scenario is that dooku either attempts to kill kenobi fast and gets killed in the process or he tries to fend off shaak ti and gets killed by kenobi via lightsaber.
Or he flicks his wrist and throws Kenobi off a cliff, then takes Shaak Ti by himself.

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