"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Grevious is very inconsistent. In the CWC he pwns 6 Jedi with ease. In the CW animated series he gets pwned by Kit Fisto. In ROTS he gets pwned by ROTS Obi Wan.
CWC Grevious wtfomg pwns Maul.
The latest CW series Grevious loses to Maul.
ROTS Grevious probably beats Maul due to his >20 strikes per second.
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Considering that both Kit Fisto and Obi-Wan are two of the most skilled duelists in an entire order consisting of at least hundreds of thousands of members and spanning multiple millenniums, I'd say that it's not consistent at all.
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Well, Grievous isn't very consistent. imo I put Maul above TCW Obi-Wan, who was able to cut off two of his hands. Logically, if Obi-Wan is capable of taking him him in full form (being all of this hands)and taking him down to two hand then I would say Maul would also be capable of that. Grievous retreated from Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan would have won either way. The fact that people use the "Obi-Wan had to use a blaster" argument is flaw since not only is Grievous capable of more easily deflecting a blaster bolt, but Obi-Wan is a trained lightsaber user meaning he's more skilled in using a lightsaber than a blaster. Also, he was forced to use a blaster since he lost his lightsaber. It's not like it was destroyed be Grievous or anything. That's why I think that argument is flaw.
So, I wouldn't say he wins 10/10, but I think this fight could be a 50/50 split. That's just me though.
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Maul would be able to keep up with that considering jedi and sith have been shown to counter, deflect, parry, ect. strikes that fast and faster. Also, if Maul couldn't he wouldn't engage in direct combat with Maul. He would use his resources and then combat Grievous. Also, considering Maul is also a sith lord who has shown some of the best reflexes and speed I wouldn't say it's out of the 'realm of possibility' that he could engage in direct combat against Grievous. Hell, Obi-Wan did. Well, others did as well and most of them also died. I wont use Mace as an argument though since Mace > Maul.
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GG (pre-smoker's lung) stomps. Hell, Maul would be hard-pressed to best post-smoker's lung GG, imo.
And in the Labyrinth of Evil novel, Grievous was portrayed as Mace's equal/near-equal in the saber department -- he even whipped up his own version of Vaapad, on the fly.
Obi Wan was arguably the greatest Soresu master to have ever existed...and he was hard pressed to hold off Grevious. Maul uses Juyo, which is more offensively orientated, and isn't as skilled with it as Obi Wan is with Soresu.
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Is there such thing as a saber contest without the force?
I agree, take away his use of the lightsaber, and he definitely loses a saber contest.
also, don't let the [absurd number of strikes per second] number fool you. Jedi are written to duel faster than the eye can see. That's pretty damn fast.
Nope, Grievous handled 6 jedi at once, including Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti at the same time. He is certainly not a chump. Maul couldn't have beaten six of them at once.
maul destroyed them both, manka, and vader, that is. also, as far as shaak ti and ki-adi, please forgive my ignorance of cartoon rip-offs of star wars, but didn't grevious simply not die from the encounter? Is that what we're giving him credit for, not dying?
I count 5, and he kills the gay one without him even fighting back, then he defends himself against all four and manages to attack them one by one, killing 2 more extras.
edit: Shaak Ti was noted to be a celebrated swordsman, was very strong with the Force, beat 20 magnagaurds at once and almost killed Galen Marek. What's Qui-Gon got on that?
May 31st, 2010 05:28 PM
FER TEA!!
