Before heading off to deal with the Emporer - Marek learns of a Force Sensative Witch on the planet Dathomir - hearing that her destructive abilities apparently rival Palpatine's.
Deciding she would be a good way to practice for his final confrontation - he heads there.
He walks into the main village of the Nightsisters and calls for Gethzerion to fight him.
She appears, looking intrigued - and then pissed off. (It's the time 'o the month for her)
Both will fight to the death - to see who is superior.
I'm going to shock everyone and say that Gethzerion stands a good chance. She's able to create storms with the Force and lightning that reaches into the sky:
Said lightning is powerful enough to turn rock to magma:
And telekinetically she can kill 100 stormtroopers with a wave of her hand:
And owns Luke and Han with the Force:
This is only 2 years before Dark Empire btw, Luke is already a Jedi Master at this point.
As for speed, she's able to dodge turret fire:
Even Palpatine feared her power. And for good reason imo.
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Wow. She pwned practically-DE Luke with the Force.
No wonder Palpy shit his pants over her, and had the planet sealed-off.
Good points, also.
Logically, anyone who rivals Palpatine in power can beat Marek.
What I don't understand, is that people postulate that Marek can beat anyone close in power, or approaching it, like Dooku - and the game implies the same with Marek's defeat of a very-peak Vader.
So what is it that magically grants Sidious the ability to shrug off Marek's attacks, with only singed-robes?
If Marek can potentially pwn people approaching the power of Sidious, his attacks should do at least a little more than ruining Sidious' clothing.
In the very least, it should be a given that Gethzerion (on par with RotJ Sidious) can shrug off Marek's attacks as well.
As well as she's apparently capable of the same level of TK as Marek, casually.
Thats a good point; in the early stages of Luke's career his power developed at a much faster rate, so two years provides a fairly significant power differential.
Luke is already a powerful Jedi by the time of RotJ, not too far off of Vader if the RotJ novel is to be taken at face value. Gethzerion owning him is an extremely impressive feat going just off of that. At the time Luke is skilled enough to fly the Falcon by himself using the Force. I doubt Luke's abilities grew that much to be honest considering what happened between Gethzerion and Dark Empire is that Luke searches for a painting and for Jedi and spends a shit-ton of time dealing with Thrawn. Anakin spent those 2 years constantly fighting and training. Luke spent them running around the galaxy looking for paintings (lol) and banging Mara Jade.
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- Imagine that, Luke, cruising all over the place for fine art; ****ing his on-off again girlfriend - while the rest of the galaxy actually had to work for a living.
He was also offering others the chance to train under him, he was not relatively early in his training at all. By that time he'd already encountered Lumiya and Kar Vastor.
That's slightly lessened by the fact that Luke did beat Vader. :I
Well, I say Gethzerion wins here - after a difficult fight.
She's shown to be as powerful as Marek - if not more powerful.
And best of all: Palpatine was not afraid of Marek - but he was afraid of Gethzerion.
That speaks volumes in the true difference of their power.
As being very adept with a lightsaber, she could at least hold him off there, long enough to take him out with her Force abilities - if she didn't do that already.
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One of the first SW books I read.
Indeed, Luke was already close to DE level at that time. In the same book he demonstrated one of his trully unparralled feats: simultaneously levitated himself, his x-wing and Isolder from sky fall safely to the ground(Palpatine couldn't do that even to himself alone). Yet, he is still not skillful enough to utilize his power effectively in actual combat, especially when it comes to witches using Force differently.
As example in the same book he gets Force handled by Teneniel Djo simply because he never dealed with the kind Force attack she used against him. Later Djo gets electrocuted by another more powerful witch. But when that witch tried to do the same to Luke, he blocked her lightning(power he dealed with before) and chopped her head off.
The lightning. Was it from her hands or from sky?
She might be close to level of Palpatine but Marek still gets unfair advantage of having lightsaber. In game Marek could block even Palpatine's lightning.
If she wins, imho it would be not by overpowering him but by utilizing some Force attack, which Marek never dealed with.
Luke didn't fight Kar Vastor. Kar just bit him and that's it.
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I've long been an advocate of Gethzerion's underrated status, but storms aside, Marek's abilities and feats outstrip hers. He probably won't be stomping her, but I'd give him the victory.
Can't cosign there on the defeat of Maul. Obi took him because Maul took his time savoring his perceived victory instead of slicing those arms off and watching Obi Wan fall to his doom. He certainly didn't take the day in terms of combat ability.
Think I might have to give that novel a read. I think considering Galen's training and overall ability he's capable of winning this one unless she throws something at him sorcery-wise that he's utterly unprepared for. Lightning and TK won't be enough on their own, but again if Palpatine feared her to that extent clearly sabers, speed, and Force prowess on your side still don't make her easy meat.
Can anyone throw out more info on specifically what Palps said in regards to her?
I meant in their final lightsaber fight after Qui-Gon died. Obi-Wan was clearly holding his own and you could even say was edging out Maul since he cut his Saber. Of course Maul still the all out combat by force pushing him.
Your right Obi-Wan at that stage was never going to match Maul in an all out enraged or not.
I was just pointing out the boost he got in his performance by being enhanced by his rage. And comparing that to Luke battering Vader in Sabers in a similar state. Vader never used his Force TK on Luke or he surely could have just Force Choked him with ease.
She does have a lightsaber. She was in fact one of the few Nightsisters who used one.
I'm not so sure, she did kill 100 people with a wave of her hand. That's pretty fvcking impressive imo. Owning Luke is another thing that's indicative of great skill and power.
I'm not sure that he actually said anything about her, only that he had a fleet blockade Dathomir to keep her contained.
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