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Acasha
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Smile Luke Skywalker (NJO) VS. Jedi High Council (TPM)

Who would win?
Setting: Yavin 4

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You mean the whole jedi council? Well isn't that obvious then?

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That includes Yoda and Mace (admittedly a not-yet-at-his-peak Mace, but still).

Also Oppo Rancisis, who is very skilled at Battle Meditation. And some other blades, some of them not bad.

Luke is screwed.


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That includes Yoda and Mace (admittedly a not-yet-at-his-peak Mace, but still).

Also Oppo Rancisis, who is very skilled at Battle Meditation. And some other blades, some of them not bad.

Luke is screwed.


Indeed. The likes of Yoda and Mace would be trouble enough. The efforts of the rest of the council seals Luke's defeat.

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The High-Council was nothing but a bunch pussies + Yoda at this point.

Everyone but Yoda is a non-factor, and Luke could effortlessly take Yoda out.

I'd say Luke would lose in the same manner that Palpatine lost to Mace and his Lackeys, however. Numbers do mean a lot.


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The High-Council was nothing but a bunch pussies + Yoda at this point.

Everyone but Yoda is a non-factor, and Luke could effortlessly take Yoda out.

I'd say Luke would lose in the same manner that Palpatine lost to Mace and his Lackeys, however. Numbers do mean a lot.


I think you're underestimating the jedi council if you believe everyone but Yoda was pathetic. As mentioned, some could use battle meditation to boost Yoda against Luke.

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I think you're underestimating the jedi council if you believe everyone but Yoda was pathetic. As mentioned, some could use battle meditation to boost Yoda against Luke.


That is true, we see what that did to aid Luke against Sidious in Dark Empire.


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Remember, the high council are basically the top jedi in the order in terms of a combination of wisdom, intelligence and combat skills. So where council members lack in combat abilities, they make up for in smart tactics etc. All the reason why they are chosen as part of the council.

So although NJO Luke stands as the most powerful jedi, the sheer numbers of the council easily make up for it.

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I have a big bias towards Luke, but he should not be able to beat all these masters.


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I think you're underestimating the jedi council if you believe everyone but Yoda was pathetic. As mentioned, some could use battle meditation to boost Yoda against Luke.

I HIGHLY doubt any of the Council Members could be using Battle Meditation in the heat of battle...

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I HIGHLY doubt any of the Council Members could be using Battle Meditation in the heat of battle...



Isn't that the entire point of Battle Meditation? You use it in the heat of battle.



And it's not like this is "while engaging Luke in lightsabers".

This is "Sitting in the back while Yoda, Mace, Koth, and others engage Luke with lightsabers."

There's a dozen people on the council. Not everyone's going to rush to the front.


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That includes Yoda and Mace (admittedly a not-yet-at-his-peak Mace, but still).

Also Oppo Rancisis, who is very skilled at Battle Meditation. And some other blades, some of them not bad.

Luke is screwed.


How is Mace any weaker? Contrary to popular belief TPM Mace does have Vaapad. Both Padawan Kenobi and Anakin were stated to have wanted to study Vaapad.

As for this fight. Master Ranciss uses Battle Meditation, the Jedi Council then proceeds to stomp this match up.


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Isn't that the entire point of Battle Meditation? You use it in the heat of battle.



And it's not like this is "while engaging Luke in lightsabers".

This is "Sitting in the back while Yoda, Mace, Koth, and others engage Luke with lightsabers."

There's a dozen people on the council. Not everyone's going to rush to the front.

True

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I think Anakin with Oneness could decimate the entire Council TBH.

Abeloth was another such being, 12 times stronger than Luke by FOTJ, her telekinetic blast did more than just desintegrate like Vitiate, it took conscious form and level a city.

Anakin was stronger than that when subduing Son and Daughter on Mortis by attaining Oneness via Mortis, which had equal energy to the Force.


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I think Anakin with Oneness could decimate the entire Council TBH.

Abeloth was another such being, 12 times stronger than Luke by FOTJ, her telekinetic blast did more than just desintegrate like Vitiate, it took conscious form and level a city.

Anakin was stronger than that when subduing Son and Daughter on Mortis by attaining Oneness via Mortis, which had equal energy to the Force.

Theres actually a Non Canon comic where if father didnt save anakin from the darkside then Anakin wouldve killed father, daughter, obiwan, and ahsoka, then travel to courasant, with the son, and kill sidious and yoda

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Theres actually a Non Canon comic where if father didnt save anakin from the darkside then Anakin wouldve killed father, daughter, obiwan, and ahsoka, then travel to courasant, with the son, and kill sidious and yoda


No there's not. erm


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Cluster much? Luke blocks 5 sabers and gets the rest in his back.

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How is Mace any weaker? Contrary to popular belief TPM Mace does have Vaapad. Both Padawan Kenobi and Anakin were stated to have wanted to study Vaapad.


I thought it was said to be incomplete until later on?

I.e. it existed but was a work in progress.


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No there's not. erm

Ya...there is... yes

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Ya...there is... yes


It does not matter. Either way it is noncanon.

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