he's shown himself to be a superior lightsaber duelist, and is a master of sith sorcery, being able to use dark tendrils, amulet blasts (not sure how well Revan can defend against these), and it even required thousands of jedi just to trap his spirit within the temple.
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Last edited by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ on Oct 17th, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Funny thing is, in the KotOR RPG supplemental material, Kun did more DPS (marginally), but Revan had a possibility to win. Something like 2 fights out of 3 went to Kun if you crunched it down to sheer numbers. Then Revan gets buffed, but goes apeshit insane. I'm not sure on this one. I want to say that Kun's artificial strength would challenge Revan a lot. The same way Vitiate's powers pretty defeated him. On the other hand, it could be an extremely tough fight and could go either way.
How exactly he have shown himself to be a superior lightsaber duelist?
Its funny that Revan have never ended up disarmed in any lightsaber clash.
Its funny that Revan defeated a master Sorcerer in a matter of seconds; came close within striking distance of Vitiate (who utterly outclasses Kun); and singlehandedly gave tough time to an Imperial Strike Team (formed of 4 of the galaxies' bad@sses) after enduring 3 centuries of torture.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Oct 17th, 2013 at 09:54 PM
I'm not saying I agree with X here, but I have to address this:
1. Exar Kun, once he becomes DLotS, is never defeated in combat, ever. Even saber prodigy and Mandalore defeating badass Ulic can only stalemate him. His dominance of his 600 year old saber master Vodo is pretty impressive as is his ridiculous Force strength.
2. Exar Kun tanked Sever Force, which was developed and perfected on the ancient Sith Empire in a war of genocide and then murdering the master with a wave of his hand, destroyed the spirit of Freedan Nadd with a punch (said spirit could heal and attack individuals across space), pimpslapped Aleema before she could blink, and avoided being obliterated with the combined strength of ten thousand Jedi attempting to wall off Yavin IV with light.
I'm not saying Kun solos here with ease, but I think you're also misrepresenting things here with your wording. A's feats do not preclude B's.
1. first off, he's created his own lightsaber form, showing very high technical mastery and skill with the lightsaber outright. Secondly, he (easily?) defeated Vodo Siosk Baas, who was a jedi weaponsmaster/battlemaster who specialized in physical aspects of combat and had 600 years to improve himself.
2. Kun's never lost a serious lightsaber duel...
3. :facepalm:
She never used any forms of sith sorcery, did she? Exactly, so don't bring up that bs. Yeah, he came close to striking distance of Vitiate only because Vitiate was channeling his power for a force wave, which ultimately sent Revan flying backward. Vitiate utterly outclasses Revan as well...
People have brought up a good argument that he did have plenty and ample time to recover from being vitiate's prisoner.
So both Revan and Kun have never lost in a lightsaber duel? I see.
Keep in mind that effectiveness in Jedi dueling arts is not just dependent on technical skill but on Force Mastery as well. Revan is an extremely effective lightsaber duelist not because of his technical knowledge but because of his amazing Force Mastery.
Honestly, it is impossible to decide whom is more effective duelist among these two.
Do you realize that Sith Sorcery can also be used to increase the effectiveness of Force powers? What if her signature lightning was Sorcery-augmented?
Revan came within the striking distance of Vitiate in holistic/logical context. Such level of performance is beyond the wildest dreams of majority of Force-users in the mythos.
In-fact, Revan possessed such level of Force Mastery that he could create new Force powers by himself. Mr. Karpyshyn confirmed this to me via email before he wrote a novel about him and TOR was released.
And how much he recovered?
I fully understand that Revan was an expert in Jedi healing arts as well. He could heal even severe injuries within a short span of time (like T-1000).
However, centuries of torture can seriously mess-up any individual mentally. Revan may have fully recovered/healed physically but not mentally after going through such an ordeal.
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Revan. By this time he is one of the top 5 strongest Jedi of all time.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
1. Kun also has amazing mastery over the force. Kun defeating a weaponsmaster who has 600 years of experience/honing his skills, stalemating droma far before his prime, etc are more impressive Revan's saber feats imo. Also note that Kun has a saberstaff, which he changes the hilt length during battle to throw his opponents off balance.
Has lightning ever been sorcery augmented? You're just speculating now.
Again, it's because Vitiate was gathering his energy, as depicted in the novel
hey Legend, out of honest curiosity, do you have the e-mails about Revan being skilled in all forms of lightsaber combat/being able to create new powers? Would be interesting to see if it's real.
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Last edited by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ on Oct 17th, 2013 at 10:44 PM
In-fact, Sith Sorcery is a specialized branch of Sith Inquisitor curriculum.
Sorcerers wield the power of the dark side to lay waste to their enemies. By bending the Force to their will, sorcerers also use the dark side to mend wounds and shield worthy allies. Whether cutting down a foe with a lightsaber or dominating them with a storm of Force lightning, a Sith sorcerer displays terrifying power on and off the battlefield. (SWTORE, Page 182)
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