TCW Maul/Count Dooku vs Darth Vader ROTJ/Luke ROTJ
All out
Battle takes place on neutral ground
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I expect this to turn into a ROTJ Luke pissing thread where people argue about how good he really is.
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Vader is superior to Tyranus in TK, durability, power, and strength, they're near evens in combat speed with Dooku being somewhat faster and more agile. Tyranus is more skilled, but not to the point where he has a similar advantage to Vader as he did in ROTS.
Luke should be able to hold his own against Maul, I'm not sure though.
Leaning towards team 2, but team 1 can win as well
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Nah Luke fought evenly with Vader who is > Maul. Even if he doesn't win he can hold his own for a while. I say if because I think Maul's martial arts skill/superior strength feats might grant him a victory more often than not.
Good points though.
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Yeah, that's what I was wondering too if Vader held back or not. There are sources that say they fought as equals, but I guess its open to interpretation
A pre Prime Vader defeated a Maul doppelganger (most likely of TPM Maul), I thin that question has been answered sufficiently. Vader is also slightly stronger, has superior TK, and superior durability to Maul
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^ The argument is whether or not Vader held back in Sabers. Many believe Luke simply matched Vader in the Saber fight. But I don't think anyone doubts Vader's vast TK superiority, and that he clearly held back in that aspect.
TCW Maul > TPM Maul. But still I was referring to just Sabers when comparing TCW Maul to ROTJ Vader.
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Hasn't Luke already toppled an AT-AT by this point?
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Vader has an edge in the Force, the good Count has an edge in sabers. Very close fight, and I;m always torn who to side with. For now I'm siding with Vader.
If Luke gest pissed he can take Maul. On the other hand Maul is more skilled, has better TK feats. Hard to tell...
I'm not sure if Count has an edge in sabers, maybe marginally in skill (a very slight margin), but again Vader is physically stronger, more focused than Anakin was, and his force abilities are enough to stagger/send him flying backward.
I'd go with Vader due to superior physical strength, durability, and enough skill for him not to end up on a stalemate as he would've in his youth.
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Team 1, easily. This will not boil down into 1 v. 1s it is a 2v2 and quite frankly Dooku can take Luke out of the equation with Force Lightning or TK. Maul can take him out with TK.