__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Vader can ragdoll Ulic, Dooku or Maul can take Revan, and Kun gets stomped once its down to two.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nah Vader is stronger than Kun. Dooku vs. Revan is a toss-up, leaning to Revan though.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Vader is superior to Kun, faster, more powerful, vastly superior TK.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Kun can keep up with everything Vader throws at him while Kun has lightning, blasts, agility and an unusual dueling technique that will tire and confuse Vader.
Kun's blasts require a nexus to be as potent as they were on Yavin, and I don't know if you saw the scans in the ROTS Palpatine strike team thread but Vader is plenty agile in short bursts. "Unusual dueling technique" Vader's style is a mesh of all the lightsaber forms, Kun's aggressive style of Niman won't be smashing through his defense. Lmao @ it confusing him.
Kun is great but he isn't taking peak Vader down.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Vader has withstood huge blasts of Lightning that are arguably more power from marek, dark-side blasts can be dodged by Vader or be withstood by him with his own energy reserves, has faced and beaten people with agility and is described to be so fast only Yoda-level beings can see him, and Kun's dueling would probably give him an edge. How is it obvious hun?
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Well if they're on nexus I don't know if Vader could take them, Kun's blasts on Yavin destroyed a massive portion of the temple wall and disintegrated Massassi. If that connected with Vader he'd be a dead man, but off nexus Kun would either have to charge them or use them as they did when they hit Aleema. Kun is good enough to pose a challenge to Vader, but he won't beat him.
Kun could take Vader up to ESB, but lose to ROTJ Vader imo
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Last edited by carthage on Nov 22nd, 2014 at 05:31 AM
Pretty sure Vader at one point withstood a Thermal detonator and those things are powerful enough to collapse a Skyhook.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
I thought I made it clear that I won't answer the arguments of a dude who thinks Dooku is top 5 sith. You're cute but its not tempting enough.
Vader's only advantage here is his strength and heavy armor which won't be a problem for Kun as he is physically very capable and strong as well. Kun has a variety of force powers that he has mastered and by your admittance, he has an edge in sabers. I don't think Vader takes this though its close.
Its obvious cause Revan clearly outclasses Dooku in the force.
How does Kun have in edge in sabers over Vader? ROTJ Vader is faster and more skilled than Kun, the only time Kun ever had a skill edge over Vader was up to ESB but ROTJ is Vader's peak and he had gotten better then.
As always you have no idea what you're talking about, Vader's holding his own against Luke is a greater feat of skill than anything shown by Kun. Also lol @ attacking my rankings, Vader and Kun are two of my favorite characters so I'm simply going by feats here. Kun has very little on ROTJ Vader
Even then Ulic is going to get destroyed by Vader, or Maul or Dooku would kill him in a duel. Once Ulic is gone Kun is a gonner.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Vader has crushed building sized Droids with pure TK and shattered Phriik, a substance tough enough that it withstood the destruction of Aldeeran. I only admitted Kun's strange application of Niman might give him an edge, I actually think Vader-sama is more skilled in the classical forms of Saber combat. Again, why is it obvious hun?
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
I really doubt Sinious has even read Tales of the Jedi or anything concerning Vader, his opinion really isn't valid when doing a comparison on Vader or Kun
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Also why would Kun's style give him any edge? Vader has already encountered a doppleganger of Maul, who is more or less an advanced version of Kun's style?
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nov 22nd, 2014 05:08 AM
