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Nomi Sunrider and Mace Windu vs Revan and the Exile.
Alright, the Kaggath dueling segment has begun. In depth arguments please if you can, though a "Team 1/2" is fine too.
Notes:
Takes place in either the Spire in the Jedi Temple, or the Executive Building chancellor's office.
Surik is as of Kotor 2, all wound powers remain and her lightsaber skill is that of the Revan novel due to no time to train.
Revan and Surik maintain their force bond.
It can either be Surik vs Mace and Revan vs Nomi, or really whatever. Just go
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Surik defeated Traya, a "Master of Lightsaber combat" and "Master of Telekinetic combat" on the galaxies greatest Dark Side Nexus through Sabers alone, since Traya was more powerful.... She'll last longer than Nomi.
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---Exile Vs Nomi:---
Nomi is a powerful force user and a decent duelist, however, The Exile - at least in her wound stage, was a force to be reckoned with, having defeated Darth Sion a number of times, Darth Nihilius and Darth Traya as well.
Given that the exile's abilities are much more defensive(Force resistance, enlightenment and Bm) I think she is well suited to solidly defeat Nomi, in the sabers category as well as the force category, albeit with more difficulty.
Exile wins against Nomi imo.
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---Mace Vs Revan---
Mace has fought with greats like General Grevious, Bulq, Depa Billaba, Ventress, Darth Maul and of course, Darth Sidious. While Revan has taken on powerful foes, like Darth Malak, Lord Vitiate and the imperial Strike team.
Mace's ability were great developed in TK and his Shatterpoint ability gives him a good edge, but Revan is far more powerful in terms of the force, force lightning, force barrier, TK, etc. Revan has a greater variety of powers at his disposal that could get the best of Mace, that said, Mace did defend against the force lightning of Darth Sidious and should no doubt have an easier time deflecting Revan's force lightning. Force Edge goes to Revan. While, Mace without a doubt gets the Lightsaber edge as his skills and prowess with the saber vastly outstrip Revan's own.
I'm going to go with Mace in a good fight.
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Honestly, it's all a question of "can the exile defeat Nomi fast enough to help Revan?" which I think she can beat Nomi fast enough, though not necessarily speedblitz her. With that said, The exile as a wound would prove to be a dangerous foe, as simply by observing Mace, she could learn Vaapad and give team Revanchist a great edge. So, I'm going with team Revanchist in a good fight.
Difference is, I see no reason to differentiate Meetra's recent appearances and her old ones other than KOTOR II's outdated mechanics. I myself thought the game made it clear that Traya was far more powerful than the Exile.
To be fair, SWTOR seems to imply her to be greater than she seemed to be in the Revan novel, but it's made undeniably clear in both sources that she was no Revan. All things considered, I do think Meetra was a council level warrior--She defeated Atris and went a few rounds with Sion, after all--But she's no match for a Mace Windu.
EDIT: Damn, I said clear a lot there.
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Mace against Revan.... Revan his cool mind even blood lusted (go to see his mental warfare HK-47 told us all !!!!)
Vaapad fuel on ennemie anger. It good for not falling to the Dark side.. But if you compare Vaapad an yuyo it's like comparing force drain against force healing.
Exept than the vaapad is consider as superior because it don't have the blind effect.
Revan can use yuyo he learn how to do, but that's not his kind...
Revan is really versatile... Mace is piercing Revan defenses a little bit but Revan have the tutaminis... The insane tutaminis allow him to resist even light saber blow as satele does with malgus, and it is more insane because he is the best of his "superior warrior dynasty". Windu defense is existent and really good, but vaapad is more attack attack attack.. Really devastating. But it stull have a lack of defense... Sidious was just Gentle with windu virginity because it was part of his plan.
In fact the reall matters is Team 2 have just a great tactician who know how to proceed : Do we attack Mace in first together do we go in a 1 V.S 1 DO we blitlz her compagnion...?
The exil is clearly ***** Because KotOR 2 the novel were like an Rise of the Sith lord reboot but a partial reboot not a 89% reboot wich still partial but we can discuss of this if you want..
The Idea was to give Revan more power (because he will need it to draw attention if you had scourge in the novel...)
Why are people assuming Nomi vs Revan, Exile vs Windu? It should be the other way around, most likely.
And yeah, Traya was more powerful than Meetra, but imo she was hampered by only having one hand and the Exile was able to duck, dodge or tank her way through Traya's force attacks and beat her in melee. We know that's how she beats Traya the first time since the fight halts with her second hand getting cut off. And the second time was likely more of the same, Meetra destroys the levitating lightsabers and cuts Traya down.
Nov 22nd, 2014 10:01 PM
