__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Nyriss. I'm under the impression that TOR Sith are superior to everyone during the Jedi Civil War time-period except Revan, Malak, And maybe Nihilus.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
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Darth Traya, she is more powerful than Meetra Surik without nexus involvement, of which Nyriss had a lot of. Traya's feats as a whole are more impressive, especially given that Nyriss' feats are exclusively amplified in the first place.
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Traya did lose, because Meetra apparently out-skilled her in close-combat.
Darth Nyriss' compound was full of Sith artifacts and trinkets not to mention is itself on Dromund Kaas. Surik as I have said before could quite easily have been diminished in Force strength by Kaas as other Jedi have been. So Amped Nyriss blitzed an under-strength Surik as I understand it.
Traya has one hand indeed, fortunately she is more than capable of waging telekinetic duels with lightsabers against Nyriss simultaneously.
However the likelihood of this being a Force bout is far greater than it being a lightsaber duel.
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She was described as mentally ill whilst on the surface but nothing more than that. On the other hand there is direct mention of Surik feeling the presence of the Dark Side on and around Dromund Kaas.
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Yeah and Nyriss can as well, hence why I pointed out her sabers advantage.
Trayas Academy would have been just as full of Sith artifacts and trinkets plus it's incredibly powerful in the darkside and debilitating to lightsiders. Meetra would have been more diminished there than on Kaas. The novel specifically mentions this and it doesn't mention jack shit about her being weakened on Kaas. PLUS Meetra had to fight through Malachor, the entire academy and Sion to get to Traya. You really expect me to believe she was in better shape than she was against Nyriss?
Which was ineffective against Meetra and has nothing establishing its effectiveness that makes us think it would beat Nyriss.
Nah, Nyriss attacked with sabers first. And its common sense to engage the one-armed woman in melee.
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Yet Surik has not been described as anything more than mentally distraught and physically pressured whilst on the surface. Indeed by comparison to others that have been there she remained largely immune to it's effects.
Dromund Kaas however was experimented on by the Sith Emperor and corrupted directly due to this. According to codex entries it was already a place strong with the Dark Side before they ever settled Kaas City, before the Citadel, before the Emperor's vast experiments, and before the Dark Temple's thousands of Sith spirits ever had an effect. On-top of this Nyriss had countless Sith artifacts, trinkets and more installed which would only enhance the powers there even further.
We can debate the strengths of the two worlds at length, but the important factor here is that Nyriss was in the depths of her own compound during all of her combat feats. We have to diminish their argumentative value to argue this point objectively.
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No, you have to augment their argumentative value to argue this point objectively. Provide proof that these artifacts actually had an effect on Nyriss's strength. I don't recall anything ever being said of this in Revan. And you, once again, ignored a very important fact: even though if what you claim is true and Malachor had little effect on the Exile, it still amped Traya. And she still got beat by the Exile.
Besides, it doesn't really matter if Malachor had the same or lesser effect in Exile than DK. Considering she had to kill a ton of beasts and other Sith (including Sion) to get to Traya, there really is no way for her to have been in a better state when fighting Traya than when fighting Nyriss.
I dunno about you guys but Traya doesn't even consider herself a real Sith in comparison to the "True Sith" AKA Vitiate's Empire.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
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