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Darth Malgus & Darth Maul vs Mace Windu & Satele Shan
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Sinious
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Darth Malgus & Darth Maul vs Mace Windu & Satele Shan

Neutral ground.

FE Malgus, SoD Maul, ROTS Windu, GM Satele

All out.

Who wins?

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Team 1.


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If Malgus faced Satele, it could end better for the Jedi.


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He has better dueling feats than her, so that's unlikely. She'd lose to either of them, where Maul can hold out to Windu due to his skill. Malgus can also destroy Mace with telekinesis


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Sinious
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She has the force edge over Maul imo.


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Malgus and Maul are definitely more durable, Maul and Mace are two tiers faster at least than their respective team-mates. Force power goes to the Jedi Masters, lightsaber skill is slightly towards the Sith due to Malgus > Shan. However the BM amp secures the Jedi's victory.


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Great thread sinious! I think team 2 would win though. since Mace could probably take on Malgus while Satele takes on maul.

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Originally posted by AncientPower
Malgus and Maul are definitely more durable, Maul and Mace are two tiers faster at least than their respective team-mates. Force power goes to the Jedi Masters, lightsaber skill is slightly towards the Sith due to Malgus > Shan. However the BM amp secures the Jedi's victory.


Do you have Mace above Malgus in the force?

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Great thread sinious! I think team 2 would win though. since Mace could probably take on Malgus while Satele takes on maul.


Thanks. smile

I think Malgus' way of approaching Windu could be a determining factor. He also could choose to face Satele instead.

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AP has an odd double standard of criticizing FE Malgus and calling his feats "game mechanics", when he's bringing up a showing for Satele that also occurs during gameplay and she's never even shown the ability to BM outside of those circumstances. Also LOLing at the idea she can use BM while simultaneously fighting another Sith, and before Malgus reverts to his force abilities to stomp Mace when he realizes he can't win a duel against Windu.


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His only feats that can be considered as game mechanics are force choking the protag(s) and being able to cast a maelstrom that insta kills whoever faced him there.


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Probably Team 1. Both Sith are better dulists than Satele, and Mace will have his hands full with either of them.


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Team 1.


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AP has an odd double standard of criticizing FE Malgus and calling his feats "game mechanics", when he's bringing up a showing for Satele that also occurs during gameplay and she's never even shown the ability to BM outside of those circumstances. Also LOLing at the idea she can use BM while simultaneously fighting another Sith, and before Malgus reverts to his force abilities to stomp Mace when he realizes he can't win a duel against Windu.


You should double-check your reading comprehension. Darth Malgus' death at the hands of the strike team is described as him being completely overwhelmed by the team's TK and explosives, knocking him into the shaft. That is the only point I make when people use Malgus' strike team battle as some kind of plus for him.

You should also probably replay or rewatch the Revan fight, her BM is an actual plot-point in that fight not just a game mechanic as you presume. You can 'LOL' if you want but it's fact that she can use it in combat.


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e Force.

Darth Malgus' 'feats' in False Emperor are glorified game mechanics. The Annihilation description simply stated that he was overwhelmed with grenades and force attacks and knocked into the shaft of the station.

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You should double-check your reading comprehension. Darth Malgus' death at the hands of the strike team is described as him being completely overwhelmed by the team's TK and explosives, knocking him into the shaft. That is the only point I make when people use Malgus' strike team battle as some kind of plus for him.


Which has nothing to do with the fact he was able to knock them around with telekinesis himself, and that as a combative force feat that exceeds anything Satele or Mace have shown thumb up. Nice way to lowball him though, Satele couldn't even't fight Revan without being apart of a team

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You should also probably replay or rewatch the Revan fight, her BM is an actual plot-point in that fight not just a game mechanic as you presume. You can 'LOL' if you want but it's fact that she can use it in combat.


I find it funny that you can criticize elements of Malgus's fight in the flashpoint, (you know the ones Sinious already listed as Game mechanics), yet also support an instance of a technique Satele has never even shown outside of gameplay. He was also able to bring them down via force lightning and send one of them flying via telekinesis, and you still haven't proved she can even use BM while simultaneously fighting Malgus or Maul. No one is doubting she has the technique, but just because she can use it in gameplay (also she had the benefit of others helping her in numbers) doesn't mean she could effectively against two high tier Sith.


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The only feats that can be taken with some clarity from any flashpoints are the cutscenes and voice clips involved. The voice clips concerning the Revan fight genuinely mention Shan using BM. Furthermore the in-game mission descriptions refer to her BM being a great boon to their efforts.

The False Emperor flashpoint contains one opening cutscene with a singular impressive feat. Beyond this we have game mechanics. The fight is described in actual source material as Malgus being overwhelmed. That is all we know.

Forgive me for hurting your Malgus hard-on.


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The only feats that can be taken with some clarity from any flashpoints are the cutscenes and voice clips involved. The voice clips concerning the Revan fight genuinely mention Shan using BM. Furthermore the in-game mission descriptions refer to her BM being a great boon to their efforts.


Again you keep disregarding or ignoring the fact she had numbers to take bulk of Revan's assault/enable her to concentrate to use BM. The burden of proof is on you to show that she can use BM while simultaneously fighting off Maul or Malgus. Feats > in game descriptions/circumstances


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The False Emperor flashpoint contains one opening cutscene with a singular impressive feat. Beyond this we have game mechanics. The fight is described in actual source material as Malgus being overwhelmed. That is all we know.


What does him being overwhelmed have to do with anything? I never denied he lost the fight, only that his force abilities are superior to hers and they plainly are. Even then that doesn't change the fact he was shoving them around, blasted them with lightning, and these feats surpass anything shown by Satele in power.

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Forgive me for hurting your Malgus hard-on.


LAL as soon as you can prove that she can use BM when she doesn't have anyone to act as a meatshield to protect her from Maul or Malgus thumb up


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Malgus can also destroy Mace with telekinesis


lol

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