Were there circumstantial factors to the fight like Dooku being tired by a combined assault from Vos/Ventress beforehand or Vos being amped by force rage from Ventress's death?
In the first fight Vos drew on his rage because he thought Ventress had been killed, allowing him to "reach for the final layer of darkness that had slumbered inside him" and disarm Dooku. In the second fight there were no such circumstances.
Ventress's actual death happens after both fights, though.
You are not considering the contexts however Zoltan, Dooku was baffled by Kenobi's speed for the same reasons you are arguing Vos > Dooku, he wasn't taking his opponents seriously. It's only after that incident that:
"Dooku decided that the comedy had ended. Now it was time to kill."
Presumably only at that point would Dooku have used his full power, which would have bolstered his perceptions among other things. It's simply not logical to assume that Kenobi could generate sufficient speed to "baffle" Dooku at full power, when even Yoda couldn't do the same:
With a sudden burst of sheer power, Master Yoda flew forward, his blade working so mightily that its residual glow outshone even those of both of Anakin's lightsabers when he was at the peak of his dance. Dooku held strong, though, his red blade parrying brilliantly, each block backed by the power of the Force, or else Yoda's strikes would have driven right through.
--Attack of the Clones novelisation
Or that Kenobi would be faster than a considerably superior Force user and more than equal duelist.
Underestimating Kenobi has nothing to do with it. Kenobi practically teleporting to Dooku and Dooku not even daring to strike him is beyond explanation.
You of all people should know that being more powerful doesn't mean you are better at every single aspect of the force.
Considering Ben Kenobi could've blitzed Vader in case Vader's concentration falters I don't see why it's so hard to believe that prime Kenobi can be faster than Dooku.
How is it beyond explanation? He expected Obi Wan and Anakin to be far less skilled and physically capable then they were and as such did not dare attempt to break through Obi Wan's defenses when he also had to deal with a skilled Djem So stylist. He need to test their abilities before responding in a way that might get him killed.
Ben Kenobi could have blitzed Vader? What do you mean by this?
Underestimating someone doesn't make you slower, or makes you not able to follow their movement.
A group of stormtroopers standing in the dock became aware of them. Vader felt rather than saw them notice the strange duel, and sensed the troopers heading toward them.
He did not wish them to interfere, but to even warn them of would take concentration that he could not afford at the moment. Should his attention falter, Obi-Wan could kill him in the blink of an eye.
—Death Star
Considering how fast Vader is, that's a hell of an accolade.
Underestimating his opponents would have led Dooku to draw on less than his full power to defeat them, and that would have effected his Force abilities across the board.For specific reasons, you've provided none as to why its possible for Kenobi to be significantly superior to Dooku when it comes to Force augmentation, an ability directly tied to raw power, not knowledge, experience or innate talent.Because Kenobi isn't faster than Yoda?
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For specific reasons, you've provided none as to why its possible for Kenobi to be significantly superior to Dooku when it comes to Force augmentation, an ability directly tied to raw power, not knowledge, experience or innate talent.Because Kenobi isn't faster than Yoda?
