Kylo was hindered during the fight. He was emotional unstable and had been shot by a weapon thats sent others flying back. Finn had somewhat softened him up as he landed some hits as he apparently was proficient in melee combat as a Stormtrooper. I think in a book it states he was adapt at using melee weapons. Also, Rey needed a Force amp and Kylo wasn't trying to kill her during the fight.
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Well, as described in the novel, Kylo isn't used to actually fighting Force Users, especially of Rey's caliber, which ESB Luke is. Kylo can obviously take a few rounds, but I see Luke taking the majority. Not to mention Snoke obviously thinking she is the more powerful.
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
In which case his experience against force users would be the exactly the same as Ren's?
I dunno if you're trolling or drunk.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
How it's that relevant when Kylo is stated to be at a disadvantage and Luke wasn't? Not to mention Luke's potential far outstripping Kylo's, this isn't exactly a case of similar comparisons. Anakin didn't face any Force Users before Dooku and Obi-Wan did, but it's pretty obvious who actually did better in that situation.
Which is what I was taking about not actual realized power.