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ESB Luke vs. Kylo Ren
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Rebel95
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ESB Luke vs. Kylo Ren

Same location as the duel in ESB

Sabers
Force
All out

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Luke will take sabers

Kylo force

Luke All out


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Kylo wins all.


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Kylo imo.


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Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.

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Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.


Kylo was hindered during the fight. He was emotional unstable and had been shot by a weapon thats sent others flying back. Finn had somewhat softened him up as he landed some hits as he apparently was proficient in melee combat as a Stormtrooper. I think in a book it states he was adapt at using melee weapons. Also, Rey needed a Force amp and Kylo wasn't trying to kill her during the fight.

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Doesn't change what I said in the slightest.

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Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.
How does it show that?


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Well, as described in the novel, Kylo isn't used to actually fighting Force Users, especially of Rey's caliber, which ESB Luke is. Kylo can obviously take a few rounds, but I see Luke taking the majority. Not to mention Snoke obviously thinking she is the more powerful.

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When did Snoke think that?

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which ESB Luke is.


Um?


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Losing to Rey shows Kylo definitely isn't ready.
Luke wasn't ready either...


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Well, as described in the novel, Kylo isn't used to actually fighting Force Users, especially of Rey's caliber, which ESB Luke is. Kylo can obviously take a few rounds, but I see Luke taking the majority. Not to mention Snoke obviously thinking she is the more powerful.
What force users has Luke fought pre-Vader?


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None. The same number Rey fought before Ren.
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When did Snoke think that?

Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?

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Luke wasn't ready either...
Fs really isn't used to debating or facing the fact his own point just blew up in his face. Poor guy.


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Luke wasn't ready either...

To face Vader. Kylo isn't comparable to Vader in any way.

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Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?

Because she has greater potential? erm


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Snoke told Rey to kill Kylo, going by the script. Why would he do that if Ren was stronger?


Got a link to the script? People said the same thing of the novel, but it’s straight up said to be the dark side “talking” to her.

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None. The same number Rey fought before Ren.
In which case his experience against force users would be the exactly the same as Ren's?

I dunno if you're trolling or drunk.


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How it's that relevant when Kylo is stated to be at a disadvantage and Luke wasn't? Not to mention Luke's potential far outstripping Kylo's, this isn't exactly a case of similar comparisons. Anakin didn't face any Force Users before Dooku and Obi-Wan did, but it's pretty obvious who actually did better in that situation.
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Because she has greater potential? erm

Which is what I was taking about not actual realized power.

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