Anything truly impressive from Kylo Ren? The blaster bolt freezing feat did seem like a pretty advanced force technique, but that doesn't even put him anywhere near Ventress level, who easily used the force to actually redirect several blaster bolts while being fired at by dozens of battle droids (Dark Disciple).
What's with all the hype surrounding Rey? Is it just me or was Kylo less impressive than she was impressive, despite years of force training.
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And in the novel Ren deflects Rey's lightsaber attacks with the Force:
"The weapon went flying into the snow. Unarmed, he raised a hand and utilized the Force to fend off one slashing blow after another, until finally her fury penetrated his remaining defenses."
Not sure what else.
EDIT: Found the DD feat:
With their master otherwise occupied on the other side of the bridge, the remaining droids opened fire freely. Dozens of bolts streaked toward Ventress and Kenobi. Calmly, Ventress batted back some with her lightsaber; the others she simply redirected using the Force. Three more droids fell, twitching and sparking.
Meh, sounds like she just deflected them with her hand/tutanimis.
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Honestly, freezing the bolt seems more impressive to me then redirecting several. But Ventress is probably the better fighter between the two (though Kylo likely has more raw power).
Stopping a blaster bolt with TK is hardly impressive
Either they're largely kinetic energy in how they dispense destruction... in which case any Jedi that can block them has the striking power to match said kinetic energy
Or?
They're largely not kinetic energy and halting the momentum of such a Force is unimpressive regardless
Nice reflexes, that's about all you get from this though
Not to me, as she would actually have to stop the bolts in their tracks before reaching her and then redirect it. She'd actually have to move the energy rather than putting a barrier.
Good grief guys, I'm too lazy. Give me a bit. If I don't find it today then I'll find it by tomorrow.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Energy expended isn't everything though, I'd imagine it demanded a great deal of precision, and therefore concentration. The fact that Kylo is able to muster that to effect a target travelling at sublight speeds is very impresssive I feel.
Though to what extent he generated a general stasis field I can't say.
@S66, I edited the Ventress feat into my above post.
Precision is fun until you remember random Jedi Knights in the Legends EU are trained to TK shit as small as oxygen molecules one by one to fill a bottle as a training exercise
The Jedi Path ladies and gentlemen :lmao
Speed I'll grant you, but in terms of precision its even larger in size than a Force Choke's surface area of coverage
I disagree. The writer made no mention of her hand as she did the lightsaber. Both techniques require some manipulation of the force, so why mention lightsaber but hand, if she was indeed using her hand? It seems she relied purely on the force for bolts she wouldn't have been capable of deflecting had they actually made contact.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
I suppose that's true, its just a rather rare ability she's never demonstrated before.
However I agree with Ares, tbh all that would be required here would be to exert enough telekinetic force on the bolt to throw it off course. She wouldn't have had to stop it in its tracks, and manually change its direction, just hit it essentially with the Force.
I think its the same technique he uses to paralyze Rey later in the film, which in the novel is described as actually freezing her muscles and slowing her breathing etc. seems Kylo can create some kind of energy field or effect that freezes matter...
Yeah, that could be it. I just got the 'magneto redirecting bullets vibe' when I first read it. Plus that, she is a master level in an era far more advanced in regards to force usage. I mean, we can assume that wouldn't apply to Kylo since he is being trained by someone who comes from less primitive era (again, in regards to the force), but then again Kylo wasn't even shown doing basic force physicality, other than speed, that would even put him on someone such as the 7th sisters level, but then we see him doing force stunts that seem pretty advanced. I know that being a Skywalker, he's stronger than most, but that wasn't a showing of sheer raw power, but rather a showing of refinement as you said, which isn't what I got from his character.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Ah, I missed this post. Perhaps he is more refined than depicted in the movie, as he seems to lack control over himself (even his lightsaber is falling apart lol jk). Maybe I should just read the novel then.
Then again, she isn't trained, so complete control over her body shouldn't be difficult.
BTW, sorry for the triple posts.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
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