The Ellimist
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What if Obi Wan had continued training?
He was already Dooku tier as a duelist and Maul tier as a Force wielder in his thirties; could he have eventually beaten Tyranus?
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Oct 10th, 2016 06:34 PM
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Re: What if Obi Wan had continued training?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Ellimist
He was already Dooku tier as a duelist and Maul tier as a Force wielder in his thirties; could he have eventually beaten Tyranus?
Yes.
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Oct 10th, 2016 06:38 PM
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Impossible to tell. Perhaps he reached his limits as of ROTS. And being a bit stronger, or even stronger in the Force, would not put him in Dooku's overall league. At least in Legends, Kenobi's Force talent was moderate as I remember. If Qui-Gon wouldn't take him as a student, he would even wont become a jedi knight.
Dooku on the other hand, was confirmed as one of the most talented jedi in the Order. Perhaps Kenobi could never reach his level.
But perhaps he will, if Disney will decide to show him in his prime during Rebels for example.
Oct 10th, 2016 06:46 PM
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M, I'll respond to you in the Vitiate thread soon, so look out for that.
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Oct 10th, 2016 06:54 PM
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No. Both Dooku and Kenobi were near or at their full potential
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Oct 10th, 2016 06:58 PM
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I think he would've gotten a smidgen better, able to duel evenly with Dooku. As for seeing him in his "prime" in Rebels, they better NOT as its 2 years before A New Hope and their is no way he can be in ROTS prime and then deteriorate in 2 years. No way.
Oct 10th, 2016 07:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kurk
No. Both Dooku and Kenobi were near or at their full potential
Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post
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Oct 10th, 2016 07:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post
Everyone reaches the point of diminishing returns. So I guess no; no-one ever reaches their true potential—it just takes a lot more time and energy for very little gain.
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Oct 10th, 2016 08:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post
Oct 10th, 2016 08:19 PM
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To be honest, Ben was only in his 50's and already crying about how he's to old, he wouldn't have advanced much.
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Oct 10th, 2016 08:32 PM
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It's almost as if he was hiding out on some backwater world rather than working out and battling evil every day.
Oct 10th, 2016 08:36 PM
The Ellimist
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by McP
Impossible to tell. Perhaps he reached his limits as of ROTS. And being a bit stronger, or even stronger in the Force, would not put him in Dooku's overall league. At least in Legends, Kenobi's Force talent was moderate as I remember. If Qui-Gon wouldn't take him as a student, he would even wont become a jedi knight.
I think Obi Wan was a late bloomer whose potential just wasn't apparent early on for whatever reason. Think Tom Brady.
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Oct 10th, 2016 08:40 PM
cs_zoltan
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For a 38 year old lightsider to reach his full potential is ****ing laughable.
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Oct 10th, 2016 08:48 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by cs_zoltan
For a 38 year old lightsider to reach his full potential is ****ing laughable.
I thought he was 35.
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Oct 10th, 2016 08:50 PM
cs_zoltan
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You thought wrong.
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Oct 10th, 2016 09:00 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Abonis
I think he would've gotten a smidgen better, able to duel evenly with Dooku. As for seeing him in his "prime" in Rebels, they better NOT as its 2 years before A New Hope and their is no way he can be in ROTS prime and then deteriorate in 2 years. No way.
Who says he has to deteriorate?
In any case, Rebels Ben only has to be good enough to take out Rebels Maul. You can decide for yourself what level that is.
Oct 10th, 2016 09:15 PM
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Do aging people get better or worse with physical skill levels in their fifties ?
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Oct 10th, 2016 09:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Do aging people get better or worse with physical skill levels in their fifties ?
well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.
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Oct 10th, 2016 09:56 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kurk
well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.
Quanchi's never done a hard day's work in his life, so wouldn't grasp the concept.
Oct 10th, 2016 09:57 PM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Kurk
well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.
That isn't the same thing. we are assuming their level of practice, diet, training as stayed relatively the same. Michael Jordan in his 20's is better than in his fifties. Facts, kiddo.
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