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Freedon Nadd
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Nihilus. He kept TK'ing the Ravager and his fleet while at the same time shielding his ghost flagship.


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AncientPower
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Do we know how potent a hyperdrive explosion is? And by Pre-Nathema, do you mean pre-getting Chained, or pre-getting Unchained?


Given Canon adopted the Legends hyperdrive class system, this should do quite nicely to set an example:
https://youtu.be/UCo7wpCnwL0

I personally think Vaylin contained it in a Force bubble. Then, besides all that, we have Senya saying it should've disintegrated her.

Oh and, obviously pre-Unchained.


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Given Canon adopted the Legends hyperdrive class system, this should do quite nicely to set an example:
https://youtu.be/UCo7wpCnwL0

I personally think Vaylin contained it in a Force bubble. Then, besides all that, we have Senya saying it should've disintegrated her.

Oh and, obviously pre-Unchained.


1. That is a Kyber crystal explosion, not a hyperdrive explosion.

2. Since hyperdrives use hypermatter in fusion reactors, basically the explosion would boil anything within its radius to gas.

Example, Legends, Death Star novel.


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The Battle Lance.

His nephew, Hora Graneet, had been a navy spacer on the Imperial-class Star Destroyer Mark II class vessel, which had been selected for a shakedown cruise testing one of the improved prototype hypermatter reactors. Tenn didn't know the specifics of what had happened, and didn't have anything close to the math needed to understand it anyway. He knew that hypermatter existed only in hyperspace, that it was composed of tachyonic particles, and that charged tachyons, when constrained by the lower dimensions of realspace, produced near-limitless energy. How this "null-point energy" had become unstable he didn't know. He only knew it had been powerful enough to turn an ISD-II and its crew of thirty-seven thousand people into floating wisps of ionized gas in a microsecond.

- Death Star


An ISD-class 2 and its entire crew were turned into ionized gas within a microsecond.

So basically just take a hyperdrive and apply the same thing with an explosion.


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That certainly changes things.


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Skillz will be pleased [SPOILER - highlight to read]: if AP is telling the truth.


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A shrill whine rose like a scream: the sound of pressurized coolant spewing from a punctured hyperdrive. Senya had just long enough to register what had happened before the damaged hyperdrive exploded.

She came to a few seconds later, groggy, disoriented and with her ears ringing. The blast had thrown her twenty meters; tiny bits of twisted, melted metal that had once been the hull of the ship lay all around her. Forcing herself to her hands and knees, Senya turned her head from side to side, looking for Vaylin. But all she saw was smoke and flame; the fires had spread to consume the entire camp.

Arcann!

Somehow Senya rose unsteadily to her feet, then set off in a stumbling run back towards her ship and her son. As the flames fell farther and farther behind her, her head slowly cleared. Her thoughts briefly turned to the fallen knights, consumed by the funeral pyre that had once been their camp. They'd risked their lives to help her, and Vaylin had slaughtered them all.

She and Arcann were alone again. No allies. Nowhere to turn. But she was still alive… somehow.

The blast should have vaporized me.

There was only one explanation for her survival: Vaylin must have used the Force to shield them both from the worst of the explosion.


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The Ellimist
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@zenwolf that isn’t what actually happened in this case, which perhaps can be rationalized by the several thousand year gap


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Unchained Vaylin >>> Revan


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Except that the hyperdrive clearly exploded and Vaylin used the Force to contain the explosion.

Trying to use technology gaps when we're talking about Iokath tech is ludicrous. Both Republic and Empire ships haven't just got Class 1.0 hyperdrives but also ships like the Ascendant Spear which was a battlecruiser with a Class 0.5 hyperdrive. Then factor in that the empire procurred Isotope-5 which was massively more powerful a power source than anything either side had utilised prior to this. Yet despite Isotope-5, the Eternal Fleet ships were still far more advanced and powerful than the Empire's.


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Unchained Vaylin >>> Revan


Nah, Revan> Spirit Vitiate that Death waved Ziost.
This line of scaling is useless anyway.

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@Elli, I’m not saying it should be exactly the same way as with the ISD since it wasn’t the hyperdrive in that instance. It’s mostly just showing the hypermatter and what it can do. Seeing as hypermatter is in TOR, the basics should be similar in destruction just perhaps on a smaller scale, which given the description on the instance seems fair.


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Nah, Revan> Spirit Vitiate that Death waved Ziost.
This line of scaling is useless anyway.


Revan is a dim-witted cuck. Vaylin is the new meta.


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Revan wears a girls' mask, he's clearly below Shaak Ti.

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Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Revan is a dim-witted cuck. Vaylin is the new meta.

Brah, he is da OR greatest leader. Vaylin is a hotheaded immature baby.

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1. That is a Kyber crystal explosion, not a hyperdrive explosion.
Indeed.

The Rebels Visual Guide credits that explosion to the detonation of the kyber crystal aboard the freighter:
https://i.imgur.com/YhZpXQX.jpg


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I stand, happily, corrected.


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Nah, Revan> Spirit Vitiate that Death waved Ziost.
This line of scaling is useless anyway.


Vaylin is also above the Vitiate that death waves Ziost. Vastly above, in fact. smile

How is the scaling useless smile


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I really don’t see how the new hyperdrive of downed and damaged ship exploding can be likened to that ISD, tbh. Scientifically speaking how is an explosion coming from a broken hyperdrive different to an explosion that destroys the hyperdrive anyway? Maybe I’m missing something, but even Shaak Ti’s survived those.


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We can clearly witness the destructive effects of both contexts, and they're pretty far different - one vaporizes the entire star destroyer and the other just looks causes a lot of wreckage. Trying to equate it to the former doesn't align with what actually happens.


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I wasn't equaling the ISD and Vaylin's instance. I was merely showing what the hypermatter does, I'm not saying the two feats are comparable.


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