I figured this is a nice topic for debate.
people's opinions on which are the best/worst duels in star wars seem
to contrast sharply. a perfect example is the yoda vs. dooku duel. people
either seem to love it or hate it. and often it is argued that the luke/vader
duels are better than the obi/maul duel...and vice versa.
i guess ill kick it off by ranking them in my opinion of best to worst(or least
exciting)
1-maul vs obiwan
2-luke vs vader ep5
3-luke vs vader ep6
4-yoda vs dooku
5-obiwan vs. dooku
6-quigon vs maul & obiwan/quigon vs. maul
7-ben vs. vader ep4
8-anakin vs. dooku
i separated obiwan vs maul from the rest of the ep1 duel because i feel that
in itself, it was the most kicka$$ duel in the saga...however fleeting it was.
some dislike the dooku vs yoda duel for the seeming lack of coordination
between them. i somewhat agree. it did not ruin it for me, but brought the
duel down a few notches for me. see, the problem is you have a stunt double
fighting a cg character, which must have been a total b**** to create, so i find
the flaws forgivable.
however the anakin vs dooku duel was pretty lame for me. they fought as if
they were frozen in carbonite below the waste. it just seemed like they were
two ravers in a nightclub waving their glowsticks around. i didn't find that as
forgivable. dooku is 80+ years old, so i dont expect him to jump around, but
why couldn't they bring the stunt double in on that duel? plus the scene where
anakin gets his arm sliced off was too clumsy, and anticlimactic.
when luke got his arm cut off, i was like "HOLY S***!!!!!!!" but with this duel
i was like "huh...he got his arm cut off..." thats my view anyway.
Yes, so far Maul Vs. Obi-Wan is my favorite as well. I also really liked Yoda Vs. Dooku, but the Maul/Obi-Wan duel is 100% real fighting, and a bigger triumph of choreographed fighting in real life than Yoda Vs. Dooku which is much more digital.
Definitely Obi-Wan vs. Maul! This is my favorite. I totally agree to what surgent said. I also like Yoda vs Dooku, but with digital characters you have more possibilities to create awesome animations and stunts which are hardly possible in real life. Obi vs. Maul hasn't got any digital stuff in it and it is still perfectly choreographed. That's why I like this one most (Qui-Gons part included).
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PVS I notice you havent put the anticipated duels yet to come and I was thankful for that. For me the best duel by far was quigon & obiwan vs. maul. The intense action of two Jedi versus a Sith Lord with a double bladed saber was awesome. The choreography was just a thing of beauty to me. Next in line would have to be the final Vader versus Luke duel.
To me, the best duel of the saga, and I know that I'll get bombed for saying this, but the best duels for me was AOTC. Yes they were quick, but it had a good feel to it.
I loved when Obi-Wan first goes in for the attack on Dooku, spins around and goes on defense as the two quickly swing their sabers 4 times left and right.
And to me, nothing beats Lee's "But by our skills with a lightsaber" and the pan around shot of Yoda as he stares Dooku down with that "Lets rock" expression.
Yes, the TPM duels were great, but to me, people mistake Maul between being a good swordsman and his martial arts style appeal. He had skill with his saber, but most of the cool effects we see out of maul are his flips, his spins, and his kicks. As for Count Dooku, he did none of that, but yet showed all of his skill through the force and through swordsmanship, and so far, Dooku is the best Swordsman I've seen.
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Last edited by Sith Master X on Aug 10th, 2004 at 05:28 PM
see, i think they played that up way too much. it seemed like a gimmick.
not yoda fighting, just that pan around him and the buildup music...it just seemed...unstarwars i guess.
i just think it should have been more subtle on the intro.
nop, i dont want to be a mod, i dont have much time. but i just dont understand why a thread like this has to be in the episode 3 forum. this thread is a discussion about best and worst starwars duels. i think it should go to the starwars OT forum. it isnt related with episode3, there is no point on posting this kind of threads here.
look, noone else seems to mind, so why dont you just let it go?
EDIT>>>(reply to your following post, because i dont want to tie the thread up with drama)
im not taking it personally, but i am still pretty irritated. either report this to ush if you think its so wrong, petition for them to create a "star wars saga" forum, or just leave it alone.
Aug 10th, 2004 01:03 PM
THIS IS NOT JUST OT>>>THIS IS THE ENTIRE SAGA.... 
