Actually it could be described lots of other ways.
Wolverine doesn't have the Force...if we wanted to translate that into Marvel terms, at least mid-level telekinesis and telepathy. Darth Maul picks up Wolvie with the Force (oh yes, he can do that) and drops him the height of a mountain. Wolverine would NOT survive.
What's to stop DM from doing that to Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan in Episode I, you ask? They have the Force.
This is basically a Wolverine vs. Jean-Grey-with-a-Lightsaber thread. And Jean wins.
... Except Jean Grey exponentially more powerful then Maul
The force is little to know help at all in melee combat, Jedi and Sith need consintration to use it and unlike some Cannon Fodder Droid/Storm Trooper, Wolverine wont be standing still long enough for Maul to use any force tricks. Once Maul is on the deffencive (which will be right of the start) he is out classed physically in every possible category.
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Ever seen (or read) Jedi pushing stormtroopers down a long hallway with the Force to get them out of the way? I have. Lots of times. To a Jedi, Wolvie's just a pissed off stormtrooper with some sharp knives. Force Push, run to Wolvie (enhanced through the Force like Qui-Gonn and Obi did in Episode I), Force Push, run, FP, run, rinse, repeat, until you're pushing Wolive off a cliff.
And physically outclassed? Hardly. Mastery over The Force, in combat, is somewhat akin to a spider-sense...and is much better than just good reflexes (an example would be Luke blocking blaster fire with his lightsaber...and compared to Luke...well movie Luke at least...Darth Maul is a Jedi god)
Darth Maul will need to have his light sabre up to prevent him self from being skewered, he will not be able to force push anyone in combat much less a much target
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Plus any lightsabre blows to Wolverine would be powerful disabling. Even if it doesn't cut adamantium, 1 inch thick cauterized slices missing out of any part of his body isn't going to be helping him any.
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You're also assuming that a Force Push can't be used in combat. It can, and has, been used many times. To levitate Wolvie and throw him around would probably take too much concentration, but just pushing him wouldn't...especially for a trained Jedi like DM...same with the speed running.
The reflexes alone that the Force enables one to have would be enough to avoid Wolvie for an indefinite period of time...but the Force Push and other Force uses puts it over the top.
-DM
P.S. Don't know if Wolvie would be able to sever a lightsaber...but imo it's a moot point.
imo its undeniable that maul has the advantage. he can avoid almost any attack from wolverine because the force allows him to anticipate wolverine's every move. they r both arguable at the peak of humanoid speed and strength. there is no evidence whatsoever that adamantium could cut ligthsaber, wouldnt really matter since its just arcs of gravitational energy, its not like they would be permanently cut. Adamantium has been damaged by high intenisty lasers and energy...so watch out for people arguing for wolverine's claws being cut. And i dont know what wolverine could do to defend himself from maul throwing him with the force.
Darth Maul would slice Wolverine to pieces..... it doesn't matter if he can or cannot cut through adamantium, he'll just slice all the organic parts of Wolvy away from the metal
Where was the force push when Vader was getting pounded at by Luke? Where was the force push when Vader was fighting Obi-Won?
Where was the force push when Yoda fought Count Dooku?
Where was the force push when Qui-Gon fought Maul?
The only time the force push was used in anything close to during actual combat was by Maul on Obi-Won but there was a break in combat when he did it and wasn't fiending any attacks at the time! Sith and Jedi need at least some degree of consintration to preform force moves which is the reason the used them in melee combat.
Wolverine won't be able to hit Maul? My ass he wont! Oh, mild Jedi precog! I'm so impressed because you know it was soooooo help full when Vader was fighting Luke, who was had little to no force powers at the time and was just a guy with an energy sword.
Not sure where you guys get these crazy notions from (certainly not the movies, that much is for sure) but here is the truth, Jedi are golrified samurai with laser swords, low level tk, telepathy and nothing more.
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and in the movies wolverine is just a guy with knives sticking out of his hand who gets knocked out quite often and can't smell the difference between Jean and Mystique
movies are not the only source of information on any of these characters
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Srank, you don't expect two people using the same powers to not resist and hinder the other's use of it would you? When the jedi and sith fight it comes down to swords skills alone.
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Luke had hardly any force powers when he first fought Vader yet he still gave him a good fight... hell the only reason Vader won was because he got the drop on him several times
EDIT: Most of the examples people use in SW threads come from the movies because it the most well known. You need to pick one Star Wars to argue for and since the movies are the most well known (and the only cannon star wars universe) I use them unless otherwises stated. Even comic Star Wars characters can't beat most street levels (they do stand a better chance though) so unless you want to go with Cartoon Clone Wars Jedi my oppinion doesn't change.
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