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woman_beater69
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REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas

Let's forget about the expanded universe for a minute...
Focusing on the movies...


In The Phantom Menace (the movie!) we know very little about Darth Maul. He's Sidious' apprentice. That's it. He is a mystery.

Now In Episode II we learn A jedi Master named Sifo Dyas ordered the clone army. Sifo Dyas died ten years before Attack Of the Clones so he died during the events of The Phantom Menace.

Now...
Skip to Episode III. As revealed in the REVENGE OF THE SITH novel (go to MF.com's forums for that), Palps tells Anakin that his old apprentice was Jedi Master Sifo Dyas, the one to order the Clone Army. Sifo Dyas died during The Phantom Menace. He died before Count Dooku joined up with Sidious. He died when Maul died.

So...

Remembering what Yoda said about "Only two there are" doesn't it make sense that Darth Maul is a fallen Jedi?

Maul is Sifo-Dyas.
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Hm, they said Sifo-Dyas was on the council though. So that could not be possible


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He "WAS" on the council. But he died during Phantom Menace. Obviously he left the order if he joined the SITH which is fact now.

I'm guessing he's unrecognizeable being tattooed head to toe like he is.
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I don't think he is tattooed is he, he's a different creature.


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Here's the Dialogue found that's from the movie...
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PALPATINE: " It is unavoidable Anakin. it is your destiny"

ANAKIN: " I know master... but it's just hard, the jedi have been like family to me... especially Obi-Wan"

PALPATINE: "Do not let your emotions blind you to the truth Anakin. They used you and deceived you and now... they have betrayed you"

ANAKIN: "Your right. I am sorry master. I know I should not argue with you"

PALPATINE: "Do not worry Anakin, you remind me of myself when I was your age. You also remind me of my old apprentice... Jedi master Sifo Dyas"

ANAKIN: (shocked) "Sifo Dyas? But he was a leading member of the jedi council... one of the best in the order!"

PALPATINE: "So are you Anakin... so are you."

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PS: Maul is a creature. He's just a tattood creature.

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Originally posted by LandoSpeeder2
I don't think he is tattooed is he, he's a different creature.


Nein, those are tattoos, LSD...I mean...LS2. wink

Darth Maul is the same species as Jedi Master Eeth Koth of the Jedi Council.


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well, it's already official that Darth Maul's been trained by Sidious since he was a child and that his name is Kahmeir Sarin, not Sifo Dias.


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that is one of the most unfunny names ever mad


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Jello
well, it's already official that Darth Maul's been trained by Sidious since he was a child and that his name is Kahmeir Sarin, not Sifo Dias.


Never seen that before (the name). Where did you find that?


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Maul is not Sifo Dias. The Jedi Master was never a Zabrak, and Maul was never a Jedi. Plain and simple.
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thinking along the lines that Sifo Dias was on the Council during ep. 1 should he have been in the scene with the Council in said episode? If he wasn't then was there an empty seat during that scene?
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We all have to remember that Lucas made all this as he went along....
...so there will be discepencies. wink


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has anyone ever thought to LIE?

Maul,Dooku,Palpatine could walk into the cloning facility claiming to be Master Sifo Dias.
Sifo Dias was ment to be one of the top jedis right? Well if he suggested there be a clone army made then it might persuade some of the other masters to agree.
Get what im saying?


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Somewhat....stick out tongue
I'm pretty sure Lucas meant Dooku to have ordered the Clones under the guise of Sifo Dyas....Stover may have taken some liberties while writing the Novelization - or the person who posted that could have just been lying....stick out tongue


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[QUOTE=3496762]Originally posted by DCLXVI
[B]Somewhat....stick out tongue
I'm pretty sure Lucas meant Dooku to have ordered the Clones under the guise of Sifo Dyas


Tis what I think as well.


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Darth Maul and Sifo-Dyas aren't same person


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Even if Sifo-Dyas was an apprentice of Palpatine's, Dooku killed him to take his place.


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Originally posted by Darth Jello
well, it's already official that Darth Maul's been trained by Sidious since he was a child and that his name is Kahmeir Sarin, not Sifo Dias.


Wow, that sounds a lot like EXPANDED UNIVERSE TO ME.

but...
IN THE MOVIE MAUL'S A MYSTERY.

Sifo Dyas "WAS" on the council. He died during Phantom Menace though. Obviously he must have left the council, probably before that Naboo crap happened.

But expanded universe...
*shudder*

I don't know...

Remember when people thought Owen was Obiwan's brother?
Expanded Universe means nothing to me.
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He could have been killed by dooku while those events were taking place on naboo at the sametime who knows just another mystery for starwars.
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