Mace, Kenobi may be smarter but Mace is not an idiot, so it hardly matters. Smart fighting won't work against Mace because he won't make mistakes in combat. Now Mace is a greater swordfighter, has more training experience, is no stranger to hard fights himself and his connection to the force can't be bad either. All in all Mace outclasses Obi Wan with everything that would really matter, he would take Obi Wan down.
Because he isn't stupid, he wouldn't make one big enough for Obi Wan to win. Well probably wouldn't, of course he could, but then we are counting on luck again.
Mace has a bigger chance to win then Obi Wan does, I'm not saying he necessarily will win but its like 80% against 20% by all logic Mace would win.
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What the hell?
And for the rest of you, Mace is not a Lightsaber god, okay? Obi Wan has more than significant Lightsaber skills. He is also very smart. Mace Windu tends to prefer Aggresive Neogotiations, being why Palpatine didn't stand trial and also being why Mace Windu is an ******* to the whiney brat that Anakin is.
Obi Wan has extreme Luck, Saber skill and Logic over Mace.
Let's see if Mace can kill a Sith Lord when he is a Padawan, hmm?
Obi Wan takes it home.
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Lets see if Obi Wan can do it in a fair fight. Oh no wait he couldn't.
Besides he had a different style then, Obi Wan doesn't have saber skills over Mace either thats pretty clear, logic? I doubt it. Obi Wan is smart but so is Mace just in different ways, extreme luck? So this debate is about who is luckiest now. Yeah of course Mace could slip over a banana and Obi Wan could win because of that. But lets not go that way now shall we.
Also lets not forget that Mace Windu was seen by all as the second most powerful Jedi in the order. That Mace did defeat Palpatine and Yoda said that Obi Wan could not. That Mace is second in command in the Jedi Order, when Obi Wan just joined the council by the time of Rots.
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Nah, don't wanna start yet another arguement.
By all? May you explain who all is? I want names, please.
Yoda says alot of things. And Yoda's word isn't gospel, people. Get that straight.
How is it clear that Mace is better than Obi Wan? What makes him better? Because he is a bald black man who "thinks" he defeated Palpatine and got his ass played by Anakin?
The only clear victory he ever got was over Jango Fett.
Mace couldn't even defeated Grievous, whereas Obi Wan completed that Task.
And yes, with Obi Wan's luck, Mace probably would slip over a Banana peel and get a saber shoved in his throat.
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Mace never fought GG, at least not if LOE is correct.
And I don't know Starwars.com describes him as a legend with only two people that could beat him.
Anakin talks about how good Obi Wan is in fighting by comparing him with Mace in AOTC. Mace lead the Jedi attack on Geonosis, clearly showing he is higher in rank then the other people there, for a reason. Sidious realised Mace was the second most powerful and even started talking with Mace about what would happen if Yoda died, when Yoda went missing or something.
Mace his victory over Sidious has been debated a thousand times, and all logic points towards Mace winning because Sidious didn't use the force enough. So yeah he is better with a lightsaber then Sidious is. But i'm not going to go into that debate again, so if you disagree please don't reply to that point and i'll drop it too.
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That's the problem. Mace is a lightsaber god. In fact he's the Jedi pendant of Tulak Hord.
Mace invented his own style at the age of 13 practicing it for 40 years. He was on the council at the age of 28 an age where Obi-Wan was just a Jedi Knight. He was never defeated in a lightsaber fight. Yoda himself said that he might be able to take Dooku (DR) while Obi-Wan got his ass kicked by Dooku quite easily two times and he also said that Obi-Wan is not powerful to beat Sidious while Mace did it. And Yoda most likely know what he's talking about.
Actually there is nothing that speaks for Obi-Wan. We know that Mace has the better duelling form. We know that Mace has his Shatterpoint ability which would grant him another advantage in a duel. We know that Mace was the only Jedi (except Yoda) who is seen to be able to deal with people like Dooku or Sidious (while Obi-Wan is obviously not).
So...I just have to say that Obi-Wan will lose here although he's my fav Jedi.
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[QUOTE=4837385]Originally posted by Nai Fohl That's the problem. Mace [b]is a lightsaber god. In fact he's the Jedi pendant of Tulak Hord.
He was never defeated in a lightsaber fight.
Um...no. Go to SW.com it says that the only two people that ever beat Windu were Yoda and Dooku. Back to the battle...Obi-Wan is very resourseful and uses the area to his advantage (mustafar) making him a smart duelist. Not a lucky ninja.
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