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Can Jedi be considered super-heroes?
I mean, a super-hero is, after all, a fictional character who is noted for feats of courage and nobility, who usually has colorful name and costume and abilities beyond those of normal human beings, right?
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su·per·he·ro ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spr-hîr)
n. pl. su·per·he·roes
A figure, especially in a comic strip or cartoon, endowed with superhuman powers and usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime.
Jedi fight crime and have the gift of the Force, but not superhuman gifts. Superhuman usually refers to super strength, flying, control of the elements, etc etc, and are usually blown way out of proportion.
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OK, Jedi are figures.
Jedi are in comic strips and in cartoon, as we all know through Dark Horse and the "Clone Wars" 'toons for example.
Jedi have superhuman powers, "the Force" and that includes the fact that they can,like superheros can, at will, lift very heavy things normal people cannot.
Jedi are usually portrayed as fighting evil or crime like for example "The Sith" or the "Black Sun's" criminal organization just to name a couple.
Sounds like you made my point, Janus.
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Jedi have can have super strength. An example would be Yoda in "ESB" lifting Luke's star-fighter out of the swamp rather effortlessly.
Jedi can become airborne for a bit, but not all Superheroes fly, ex: Batman. Jedi can perform real high leaps and bounds that are superhuman-like. They can jump of high levels of surface and land perfectly unharmed.
not all superheroes can control the elements..
In fact, there are some superhuman feats that most Jedi can do that some superheroes cannot do..
In other words, I consider the Jedi to be superheroes. I just don't refer to them as so. I just call them Jedi.
__________________ "The darkside, Sidious, is an illness no true Sith wishes to be cured of, my young apprentice .."
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I think the point you're missing, FoTNS is that the jedi aren't trying to be heroes nor are they fighting crime or being vigilantes. They are a religious order that utilizes a very universe form of power (not unique) to keep the peace and combat those who use that same power for ill.
They do not crack down on smuggling, stop slavery, or otherwise act as vigilantes or police on anything other than a very distinct level (For example, Stark Hyperspace Wars, Clone Wars, a whole four jedi were sent to stop succession in Ansion, which was a pivotal planet in a web of alliances that threatened to break the Republic hold in that area).
Unlike Batman or Superman or Spiderman, they don't have unique powers that are beyond belief, they don't violate laws of nature with their very being, and they originated in a sci-fi movie, not in cartoons or comics, which were just an extension of media, nor their origins.
Jedi do NOT have super strength. Do you see Obi-Wan picking up cars with his bare hands or throwing around buildings? No? The Force is not super strength, it's telekinetics and telepathy.
Jedi jump, completely different than airborne.
And that wasn't the point of the element comment: NO Jedi control elements.
Jedi Knights and superheroes are different things.
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