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Yea, as good as Sidious is by this point, Luke is just simply better. It wouldn't be pwnage per se, but Luke wins with slightly less than moderate difficulty.
I'm gonna disagree here. Luke wins, but it's one very close fight. Luke is significantly better in saber combat, but Sidious equals, if not beats him, in a force fight.
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I have to interject. I was once one of the more prominent "NJO owns all!" supporters, but Glentract is right. Luke is only better by a noteworthy amount in lightsaber prowess, but even that wouldn't be ownage, given how fast Sidious is and Sidious's tactics. But Luke is no where near Sidious in Force mastery, and he won't own, pwn, or possibly not even win in an all out Force contest.
You heard me correct. NJO Luke won't be owning Sidious in the Force department. Sidious's knowledge of the Force is still miles ahead of Luke's, as is his experience, and I've seen nothing that leads me to believe Luke's Force powers (even at that point) is a lot ahead of Sidious.
A pre-RotJ Sidious can slaughter Stormtroopers by the dozens; he utterly annihilated three Sith spinter acolytes with one hand (and reduced them to ash and bone). DE Sidious was an inch from death and still killed all of Luke's Jedi escort when they attempted to bring him into custody.
Nah. I know Luke's Force skills aren't miles ahead of Sidious's, and I'd hesitate to even call them equals.
But if Luke can keep this to a lightsaber duel, he'd win.
Right. And according to you, a Force Storm won't be handy in a fight. So how would manipulating a blackhole?
Edit: Just so we're clear, if Luke can "manipulate a black hole" in a fight, Sidious can launch a Force Storm. If that's the case, then they'll just kill each other.
That's because manipulating a black whole is testament to Luke's strength and mastery of the force. The same can't be said about the Force Storm for Sidious, given it's ritualistic nature (I'm not talking about how long it takes to prepare, but the nature of how it is set up. I can go into more detail, but I'm pretty sure I've already done so in the past), and the fact that it speaks more for willpower and depth of anger than it does for force strength or mastery. If Luke applied that level of TK into a push, he's probably break Sidious like a twig. Also, from what I've heard, when Luke pulled off said feat, he wasn't even using his full power, so if that's true. than he's probably even more powerful.
I agree with Escape that Sidious has more attacks under his sleeve, in fact he probably has the most offensive weapons out of any character in SW, but Luke at his peak is also almost twice as powerful as Sidious. What I mean by this is that his raw power exceeds Sidious' and he'd be able to more than hold his own against Sidious. I'm curious as to what would happen if Luke uses emerald lightning.
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Even though he uses the force storm it wouldn't do him any good considering how Luke already turned it against him once (not sure was leia helping ore not)
The Force Storm is not ritualistic in nature, Nebaris. It doesn't take six zillion minutes to prepare, and Sidious doesn't sacrifice a goat to create one nor does he light a bunch of candles and start singing a Gregorian chant. Sidious's Force Storm speaks of the level of destruction that he can create; regardless if it is based on sheer power, it is the most devastatingly powerful Force assault we've seen.
Luke has not been shown distributing such power on another Force user, and while I'm not doubting his power rivals Sidious's, Sidious's techniques, experience, and offensive lexicon outmatches Luke's own.
It's more plausible that Sidious will launch a Force Storm at Luke and get away with it than Luke using a blackhole.
NJO Luke is not Luke at his peak, so that statistic doesn't apply. Luke can win either way, but he will not own Sidious in the Force.
Mar 7th, 2007 12:06 AM
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