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__________________ There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
- Morihei Ueshiba
1. Yoda
2. Yoda, as as far as we know there is no defense against the amulet.
3. Kun b/c of the amulet. Yoda has a chance at dodging it but even if he does it could go either way, so.
4. Saber only? Hmm... maybe Kun? Not to sure about that one, though.
1. Wonderful, your argument deals with absence of proof. Unfortunately there's no proof that anybody CAN block an instantaneous beam of energy that grows with rage.
2. Ambiguous statement most likely written in universe. Don't bother applying it
3. Him being able to dodge 3 masters doesn't imply that he's able to dodge instantaneous blasts.
4. Wtf? Who cares? Stop bringing nonsense into this debate.
5. Another baseless assumption.
6. No but once he sees Yoda's power, he'll get serious
7. I was wrong, apparently Nai misinterpreted information somewhere, so this shouldn't apply.
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Rots Yoda Vs Exar Kun
1: what is Yoda going to do against him he cannot kill him with the light side of the force unless he suddenly begins to use the dark side ore deployes emerald lightning I don't see how he is winning the first fight. (can Exar be knocked unconsious? does that count as winning?)
2:With the amulet Blast true in the comic it was never used on a jedi, but the power of the amulet was clearly seen and with this he wins without trouble (maybe Exar doesn't think I am not going to use the amulet against him, but this is a battle he goes in there and is going to win by any means nescarry that means using the amulet)
3: Interesting actually the question is what Exar is going to do, and seen how he is such a good swordsman which he is I think he is moving in just to gloot, and that can prove to be his undoing against yoda. (don't know about depowering a sith artifact wasn't shown in Rots and therefore cannot be used as a valid argument.)
4: This one is Yoda no doubt about it, he pwnds him in my openion yoda has a higher speed and agility then Kun and that will be his advantage.
Conclusion: Its is either Kun 3/4 ore draw, but again just my openion.
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Well, for Yoda being "uber fast" he couldn't even dodge Sidious' lightning blast when he saw him raising his hands slowly, so if the amulet blasts are in fact instantaneous, then Yoda would get hit.
I've argued with that particular scene before. I believe that it can be interpreted that Yoda was a victim of his own hubris at that point (as displayed earlier in Attack of the Clones, when Yoda himself admits that even "older, more experienced Jedi" have fallen victim to their own arrogance and beliefs in their abilities). Palpatine didn't blast Yoda with a sneak attack, and it was fairly obvious what he was going to do. I believe that he simply didn't attempt to avoid it or deflect it initially because his arrogance limited him.
You'll notice that as soon as the lightning bolts encroach upon Yoda, he drops the cane and makes a legitimate attempt to deflect them - but is overpowered and knocked unconscious.
We see that Yoda is capable of keeping the Emperor's Force lightning at bay (albeit with extreme difficulty) and we see that he does so in situations where Palpatine is quicker on the draw. I can safely conclude that he was unable to deflect Palpatine's lightning due to his own hubris at that point.
Good theory, Gideon, I like it and it could very well be true. But then, Yoda could be a victim of his own hubris against Kun and could get blasted with the amulet blasts, which would kill him and he'd never get a chance to get back up.
Bloody hell, how hard can those things be to dodge for someone capable of taking eight blaster shots at once? Kun has to raise his arm first and fire a beam that begins relatively small
The most likely scenario would be a saber battle, and I'd give it to Exar.
He possesses a unique style with a weapon that was pretty rare in the PT times. How badly Bane did against Kas'im when he was using an unfamiliar form in comparison to how well he was doing before is testament to how great the advantage of an unfamiliar form is. I mean Bane basically went from dominating Kas'im in their duel, to getting his ass kicked, bad. Exar Kun's unique form and unorthodox weapon would be hell for Yoda to deal with.
Exar Kun's strength was pretty insane as well, given that he was actually able to swing a weightless object and break Vodo's stick through pure impact alone (Vodo's stick was resistant to the cutting power of a lightsaber, as well as being stronger).
His speed is constantly shown to be uber to the max, given that in virtually any fight he appears in, he moves in blurs. As fast as Yoda is, he does not move in blurs.
He was unmatched in an era with such people as Ulic Quel-Droma (who could hold off extremely powerful darkside driven jedi masters after being cut from the force and out of practise for a decade), Nomi Sunrider (who could wield the saber like a true master after instantly picking it up for the first time) and ancient obscure alien Jedi (such as Vodo). I'd rate all three that I mentioned above anybody Yoda faced (except maybe Vodo), and Yoda still had trouble with most of those he faced, despite his huge age and experience advantages.
Yeah, I'd definitely give the fight to Exar in this scenario.
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Given most of it to Kun but Yoda at this point of time has also done some quiet impressive things, as a jedi beinging capable of stalemating the witches of Dathomir, I think that is quiet impressive those witches was strong enough for palpatine to be afraid of them.
Mar 20th, 2007 10:57 PM
