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ESB Luke & TPM Obi-Wan vs. AOTC Anakin

Obi-Wan is in hs little PO'ed state.

The fight is in the hanger where Ani fought Dooku.

Who takes it?

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ESB- Luke Skywalker vs. Darth Vader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6ch_vpoh8

He's not using Form Lightsaber bat...it's a very good fight, I thought.

AOTC - Anakin vs. Dooku. Starts at about 1:38.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1GmEJw8v8


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The duo - TPM kenobi alone is close and could maybe do it. Luke isn't that great but he's good enough to definately turn the fight in the favor of Obi-Wan, though i doubt Anakin will be getting cocky in this fight since he's going up against 2 Jedi at once. But they still win comfortably.


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TPM Obiwan alone can do it, add Luke, they win hands down.

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TPM Obiwan alone can do it.


No, he can't.


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Luke will make more of a difference that you might think. Despite still being new to the game, the training he received from Yoda was very intense, and he was trained to become powerful fast by Yoda, through desperation.


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No, he can't.


I agree, of course he cannot. AOTC Anakin very much in par with AOTC Kenobi, what makes him think TPM Kenobi could possibly be a match for Anakin? Whatever it is, he's wrong.


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The duo - TPM kenobi alone is close and could maybe do it.
No, Padawan Kenobi and Padawan Anakin are not equal, AOTC Anakin is on the same level as AOTC Kenobi,10 years after TPM.

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I say the duo in a long hard fight. Honestly...AOTC Obi-Wan didn't seem al that impressive. Look at his speed and skill against Maul when he's angry and then him against Dooku.

Admittedly, Dooku is far stronger than Maul but Obi-Wan was on the offensive and was still not pulling off the crap his padawan self could.


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TPM Obiwan in FP is close or better than AOTC Anakin. Adding Luke, the duo wins.

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TPM Obiwan in FP is close or better than AOTC Anakin. Adding Luke, the duo wins.


How is that? Since Anakin was equal to Kenobi in AOTC, says Nic Gillard, you don't think Kenobi got any better in 10 years?

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TPM OB1 utilizes an offensive form while AOTC OB1 had been using sorseu (sp?) for 10 years after seeing the holes in the offensive game, hence the reason for lack of speed and ferocity. Plus, all that "going off" on Maul only landed OB1 in a shaft about to die...it wasn't til he calmed himself that he was able to get a lucky hit on Maul.

AOTC OB1 would take his TOM self through patience and style alone. Anakin, who had trained for 10 years total at this point, was far beyond that of a padawan OB1. He did better against Dooku that AOTC OB1 did, and performed far more impressive feats that OB1 ever has.

Luke at the time of ESB is likely on a 12 year old Anakin's level, and would only hinder OB1's progress. Honestly, it could go either way. Anakin could divide and conquer, or he could lose. But to say that OB1 could do it alone is completely asinine.


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How is that? Since Anakin was equal to Kenobi in AOTC, says Nic Gillard, you don't think Kenobi got any better in 10 years?
Seeing how Obiwan fight Maul after Qui Gon was down, they should be close.

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Seeing how Obiwan fight Maul after Qui Gon was down, they should be close.
Yes, only after tapping the Dark Side, and look where that got him. Nearly falling down a bottomless pit.


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It also allowed him to fair better against Maul than Qui-Gon, a reknowned saber duelist apparently.


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Faired better for a while, then he got pushed down a bottomless pit. And Quiggy only lost like he did due to being in such a closed space. Not his style.


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Faired better for a while, then he got pushed down a bottomless pit. And Quiggy only lost like he did due to being in such a closed space. Not his style.


Where is that stated? It doesn't seem right seeing as Maul wields a larger weapon and seems to use more acrobatics. Also, it didn't seem all that confined. If it is stated clearly though, there's no point in arguing.


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Where is that stated? It doesn't seem right seeing as Maul wields a larger weapon and seems to use more acrobatics. Also, it didn't seem all that confined. If it is stated clearly though, there's no point in arguing.


He lost because he was routed into that space by Maul. Maul took up larger space with his weapon while Qui-Gon had little room for mobility, defense or offense.


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Yeah, Quiggy was an Ataru man wasn't he? Needed space, that little room with Maul slashing around everywhere made it hard for him to maneuver.

OB touched the Dark Side and he did better, but still got beaten. Only when he cooled down could he get the "jump" on Maul.

AOTC OB, now cooler and calmer, and stronger than his TPM counterpart , uses a defensive style. Get Anakin using a more aggressive style, OB may hold him off long enough to get the better of him.

Luke would stand in awe and wish he could be like them.


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Well, the op did say that this is Obi in his "PO'ed state".

I'd say that regualar TPM kenobi vs. Anakin is close. Kenobi wins if Anakin gets cocky, otherwise Kenobi wins, but close either way.


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